Modes gsa 1250

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Hello happy new year
I want to ask you if a standard model gs 1250 adventure without daynamic ESA , can have separated all the modes as daynamic pro and enduro pro not as an order from configuration but as an Extra in communication with dealer

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I would like to ask about the modes such as enduro daynamic and Pro

I have a standard model without daynamic ESA and i have the standard modes

Could i order and add these specific modes to my gsa i want to put only the modes

Thank you



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there is an IMU that tells the bike how better to control the brakes and throttle depending on bike's behaviour and angle of dangle - this used to be the bit behind the "Pro" element of the naming nomenclature. They actually made the features you want a retrofit option in 2015

https://www.press.bmwgroup.com/glob...00-rr-model-years-2012-–-2014-too?language=en

If you have the IMU then things will be vastly simpler and cheaper - the dealer won't know they can do this work - but it should be all do-able - you'll need to PAY for the feature to be added to the bike. You won't get the exact same feature as the full spec bikes built today as some bits are now linked to the ESA.

And again the livelier Dynamic Pro riding mode (introduced Jan 2018) that let the bike accelerate more cleanly - rather than become a stuttering mess wobbling about, is ONLY with the LCD screen. As they needed to put the message up when selecting - this bike might actually accelerate and thus give "inadvertent front wheel lift"

All BMW vehicles have in software a list of toys fitted at the factory and or subsequently dealer approved retrofitted. The VO (vehicle order) unlocks certain software communication around the vehicle's canbus. Retrofitting means the hardware and software updates and paid for software licensing have been applied - it alters the Bike and BMWs record keeping. making any retrofit option the same for dealer servicing, support and warranty as if the factory put it there originally
 
I haven already bought the bike its 12/21 built
And my dealer said yesterday that the modes can be add im so glad thank you for your answer

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on the full spec bikes the better modes actually need the user to fit a plug in gadget to the main wiring loom under the rider's seat

its QUITE remarkable 90% of owners have never looked under the seat and found a little plastic bag with a usb flash drive sized gadget in there. you remove a dust cover on the wiring loom and plug this gadget in the socket and LOTS of new features and performance is now available
 
on the full spec bikes the better modes actually need the user to fit a plug in gadget to the main wiring loom under the rider's seat

its QUITE remarkable 90% of owners have never looked under the seat and found a little plastic bag with a usb flash drive sized gadget in there. you remove a dust cover on the wiring loom and plug this gadget in the socket and LOTS of new features and performance is now available

Dont think so any more, my 21 GSA works 100 % straight out the box, just needs configuring on the TFT.

Shinyface
 
Thank you my thought was to take a standard model with no ESA and in a few years put ohlins but i wanted the modes...

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Thank you my thought was to take a standard model with no ESA and in a few years put ohlins but i wanted the modes...

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good choice ESA is budget nasty as possible junk

its almost back to the dark ages of zero adjustment - people need to wake up you need independent compression and rebound damping adjustment like nearly everything had before the marketing team invented a new way to steal your money

this shit is single damping adjustment budget trash - its just got buttons and distinct modes, so idiots pay more and think they are special

sadly from old stuff that that worked well, we now pay extra and get a choice of mad and irritating, terrible / worse / or unusable
 
I see our local hero is in full Jeremy Burgess mode (except Jeremy actually knew what he was talking about!) :augie:augie:augie
 
such wise words Flipfly - could you explain this to me please

I've had ESA on two BMWs the LC adventure you needed to toggle between comfort under 40 and sport anything faster - and even then was a nasty mess of cheap poor quality rubbish
My K1300GT had ESA and it was budget rubbish, of out of it depth in sport and a po-going mess in comfort

Then we land with how others manage it - and as i just typed it up, thought I'd show for your displeasure

got a freebie rear shock :thumb2 its the last "current shock for the 2017 1290 SAT with the white spring", this is a third edition of the damper body, plus just checking parts listing the same electronics module I have, but I guess running different garbage that can't be worse than the rubbish they've flashed at the bike 7 times between two dealerships

as they never bothered (as I knew they wouldn't), to process the rubbish shock that never worked from new, under a warranty claim, and with the second shock being worse than the original, again never working, I asked for my old shock back so I could work out what KTM and or the dealerships never managed. With the intention of getting the rear of the bike to actually have what is called "suspension".

But with covid delays, they've lost it - the boss then said but we have another - a warranty job they didn't need back - you can have that ? - so I agreed something to hit, would be better than nothing, and it turns out its in very good condition and the complete unit - can't see much wrong aside from a tiny bit of rust around the top and bottom coils where the high quality paint doesn't like metal in a few spots.

So I thought can't be too hard, lets put it on, throw the electronics in a tail spin of incompatible lunacy, get 3000 error messages on screen and trash the bike forever (got to be better than how they made it)...

And the end result is - it works - does more than the last two - and now the back almost notices its supposed to move !
Oddly I seem to have active trash in all modes - this morphing madness randomly wandering between rubbish to worse - its only supposed to be there in one mode - but overall its still better then how they made it.

I don't understand the stupidity of KTM's electronics, but then nor does KTM or the two dealers near me, somehow the back's brain impacts the front. And now I seem to have stiffer damping on the front closer matching the rear in whatever they call the grown up mode, next one don't see a change, I guess comfort is fractionally less stiff, and off road changes the front with an almost imperceptible change at the back (all sounds very familiar !!!!!!). But if I ride at 20 mph and bounce the suspension the back is now moving up to 120mm - when with the original I could just get 30mm of suspension travel at the back and the correct replacement they fitted would only move 20mm

The active death suspension feature remains as incompetent as always - changing from OK for fast use at slow speed with reasonably firm damping, and then all damping on the front vanishing as you go faster - the exact opposite of how it should work - well done Austria - those Italian neighbours electrical skills must be rubbing off...

The back must be softer, as the tank slapping madness they gave back from the last dealer visit seems to have gone - these guys are the ones that actually got the electronics in the front to notice they were fitted on the bike after a year's holiday. What they gave back was quicker, the front damping functioned once again, but the bike now had this random wheelie feature, where it might get a meter and a half of air, or it might not lift it at all - no matter how hard you tried.

It liked to offer this interesting lucky dip. It was often as if it monitored your riding and would surprise you doing the exact opposite of what was appropriate (aka active death 2). It would progressively get out of shape when nailing it through the gears, almost going lock to lock by 120 mph and this seems to have gone. But I expect its just waiting for a good moment to pop back - trouble is this is probably a designed in time software feature to sell a new bike - by writing itself off. But I guess KTM didn't reckon on me hating it enough to stay on and just giving it a dam good kicking so it always ends up submitting under the pressure
 


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