More ROSPA bollox

I don’t recognise Lord Snootys experience, my IAM tutor many years ago was all about progress but not at the risk of crashing. I moved to RoSPA because I thought the local IAM group took the wrong approach whereas my local RoSPA group put safety first.

In our group we have twice yearly tutor training, which includes practical as well as classroom. I’ve not heard of an associate crashing during training and I’ve over ten years as a group tutor.
IAM (from my experience), has never used the mantra "you must make progress" as their most important consideration. It's simply not the case. Things have changed from years back, and as a National Observer myself, our main concern is safety. The priorities we provide guidance on suggests that safety first, then legality. Correct use of the system of riding is explained, concentrating on the main competency areas, to assist riders achieving recognised standards of competency and this absolutely has safety at it's head.

Our aim is to be constructive, to motivate and to provide the information and guidance for each rider to progress towards a standard of riding where safety is first and foremost the key consideration. Progress comes naturally from applying the system of riding, which adds smoothness and confidence (with experience). The aim is to produce a "thinking rider" who recognises and practices the importance of well informed risk assessment when riding to inform them and allow for solid judgements when applying the system. Key to all of this lays in promoting improved observation, raising vision as far as possible, to allow for adequate planning and reaction time to constantly varying conditions, all using the advanced techniques highlighted in Roadcraft, hence the Rider's Logbook is based on the Roadcraft manual.

In any organisation, you see examples of good and not so good and the IAM and ROSPA aren't immune to that, but in general, they do a good job of promoting safer riding standards and producing riders who are far better informed and competent in their riding standards. As an N/O, I and my fellow N/O's put a hell of a lot of work and effort into trying to help other riders for no reward other than the satisfaction the comes from seeing the progress many make, and hopefully, do our bit to help others make themselves safer on todays roads. We are under no pretences that we represent "the gold standard", just that we have been assessed and recognised by the IMI as competent to undertake such roles. Every ride is a learning ride and there's no such thing as the perfect ride, so we're all aware that the learning journey is ongoing and always will be. You do get the odd arrogant individual, but I'd like to think that they are in the minority.

I try and remain at arms length from the politics but am aware of the commercial interests of these organisations. If anyone is taken advantage of, it's the hard working and well meaning N/O's who after all, do the lion's share of the work on the ground for the IAM and ROSPA.
 
IAM (from my experience), has never used the mantra "you must make progress" as their most important consideration. It's simply not the case. Things have changed from years back, and as a National Observer myself, our main concern is safety. The priorities we provide guidance on suggests that safety first, then legality. Correct use of the system of riding is explained, concentrating on the main competency areas, to assist riders achieving recognised standards of competency and this absolutely has safety at it's head.

Our aim is to be constructive, to motivate and to provide the information and guidance for each rider to progress towards a standard of riding where safety is first and foremost the key consideration. Progress comes naturally from applying the system of riding, which adds smoothness and confidence (with experience). The aim is to produce a "thinking rider" who recognises and practices the importance of well informed risk assessment when riding to inform them and allow for solid judgements when applying the system. Key to all of this lays in promoting improved observation, raising vision as far as possible, to allow for adequate planning and reaction time to constantly varying conditions, all using the advanced techniques highlighted in Roadcraft, hence the Rider's Logbook is based on the Roadcraft manual.

In any organisation, you see examples of good and not so good and the IAM and ROSPA aren't immune to that, but in general, they do a good job of promoting safer riding standards and producing riders who are far better informed and competent in their riding standards. As an N/O, I and my fellow N/O's put a hell of a lot of work and effort into trying to help other riders for no reward other than the satisfaction the comes from seeing the progress many make, and hopefully, do our bit to help others make themselves safer on todays roads. We are under no pretences that we represent "the gold standard", just that we have been assessed and recognised by the IMI as competent to undertake such roles. Every ride is a learning ride and there's no such thing as the perfect ride, so we're all aware that the learning journey is ongoing and always will be. You do get the odd arrogant individual, but I'd like to think that they are in the minority.

I try and remain at arms length from the politics but am aware of the commercial interests of these organisations. If anyone is taken advantage of, it's the hard working and well meaning N/O's who after all, do the lion's share of the work on the ground for the IAM and ROSPA.
I was clear that my experience of the IAM was the local group, it may even have only my tutor where this came from. During a blood bike check ride I expressed my opinion to what turned out to be a senior IAM person who advised me the tutor I had was no longer in the IAM and put me in touch with my local RoSPA group.
 
I was clear that my experience of the IAM was the local group, it may even have only my tutor where this came from. During a blood bike check ride I expressed my opinion to what turned out to be a senior IAM person who advised me the tutor I had was no longer in the IAM and put me in touch with my local RoSPA group.

It turns out a similar situation has arrived with my group. My main tutor has been 'moved on' and no longer has any dealings with ROSPA, IAM or the local groups. Personalities are so important for harmony. It wasn't that I didn't like the chap, we shared a beer after each ride quite friendly, but he was confusing me, when I had been happily riding for 50 years, instead of just doing, his approach made me have to think about what I was doing where before it was already second nature. That caused consternation, that and having to learn 'rules' and acronyms and crap like that - I am a 'just do it' type of rider.
 
It turns out a similar situation has arrived with my group. My main tutor has been 'moved on' and no longer has any dealings with ROSPA, IAM or the local groups. Personalities are so important for harmony. It wasn't that I didn't like the chap, we shared a beer after each ride quite friendly, but he was confusing me, when I had been happily riding for 50 years, instead of just doing, his approach made me have to think about what I was doing where before it was already second nature. That caused consternation, that and having to learn 'rules' and acronyms and crap like that - I am a 'just do it' type of rider.
I can see what he was trying to do but was missing the mark by the sounds of it. We talk about advanced riders being thinking riders, things get done for a reason not just by habit but it sounds like he was taking it too literally.

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I can see what he was trying to do but was missing the mark by the sounds of it. We talk about advanced riders being thinking riders, things get done for a reason not just by habit but it sounds like he was taking it too literally.

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Riding like join-the-dots, or painting-by-numbers. It was like having a recipe and having to follow it religiously.
 
Good and bad in most organisations. Anyone tutoring and being too focussed on prescriptive coaching is likely to slip up and have the opposite effect of encouraging a "thinking rider". It's also suggestive of someone with limited coaching skills. Every rider may need a different approach to eliciting the best in them. The "system" is actually quite well considered as if one thinks of the main elements as a backbone running through each area of riding (or "competencies" as the IAM likes to call them), the idea is really to take in information, be able to plan for what's ahead in a way that maximises safety, reduces risk and importantly, maximise reaction times. It all happens quite rapidly in some cases and requires a degree of flexibility to adapt to constantly changing circumstances, so it's really the opposite of a rigid system. There's a lot to take in initially but with practice, it does become second nature. The one word summary which the police have been using for decades defines this as "Roadcraft" and there's few finer riders on the roads....anywhere. On the track is a different matter.
 
Good and bad in most organisations. Anyone tutoring and being too focussed on prescriptive coaching is likely to slip up and have the opposite effect of encouraging a "thinking rider". It's also suggestive of someone with limited coaching skills. Every rider may need a different approach to eliciting the best in them. The "system" is actually quite well considered as if one thinks of the main elements as a backbone running through each area of riding (or "competencies" as the IAM likes to call them), the idea is really to take in information, be able to plan for what's ahead in a way that maximises safety, reduces risk and importantly, maximise reaction times. It all happens quite rapidly in some cases and requires a degree of flexibility to adapt to constantly changing circumstances, so it's really the opposite of a rigid system. There's a lot to take in initially but with practice, it does become second nature. The one word summary which the police have been using for decades defines this as "Roadcraft" and there's few finer riders on the roads....anywhere. On the track is a different matter.
A lot of sense in what you write!
 


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