Motorcycle rider safety in European countries.

[EVskiy]

On my most recent trips to Eifel region of Germany and then a month or so later to Austria, I have noticed these road marking in Luxembourg as well as Austria, which without knowing what they meant, I sort of got the gist of what perhaps they are meant to be or whom they are aimed at.

Lixembourg markings.





I was correct to think that these are specifically for the motorcyclist, making them aware of the danger of oncoming and overhanging the centre line large vehicles in the corners.

In Austria these lines were replace by what appeared to be circles, but it transpires to be ellipses.

Now, I just come across this article on the webpage through a Facebook link. It is an interesting read.

 

[MrC99]

Seems like a good idea and based on the principle that people tend to avoid riding on road paint. The article states that something similar has been piloted in Scotland - anyone seen them?

 

[EVskiy]

The article states that something similar has been piloted in Scotland - anyone seen them?

Not that you have mentioned it. I do recall reading it somewhere earlier this year. I am pretty certain it was on here, it was an article from a Scottish newspaper.

 

[wessie]

New road markings transform behaviour of motorcyclists on bends | Transport Scotland

www.transport.gov.scot

Update after monitoring the trial https://hi-way.co.uk/road-markings-and-motorcyclists-why-new-nudge-markings-improve-safety/

 

[Lard]

Yes I saw similar in Scotland a few weeks ago - but more like 2 horizontal arrows repeated every 5 metres on the bends that you naturally ride between (and therefore keeps you in the centre of the road)

 

[glenn2926]

Seems like a good idea and based on the principle that people tend to avoid riding on road paint. The article states that something similar has been piloted in Scotland - anyone seen them?

Yeah I saw them last year in Scotland. I seem to remember they were motorbike images on the road.

 

[glenn2926]

Yes I saw similar in Scotland a few weeks ago - but more like 2 horizontal arrows repeated every 5 metres on the bends that you naturally ride between (and therefore keeps you in the centre of the road)

I found them very different to how you found them. I found that they pushed one away from the centre of the road and more into the centre of the lane. Therefore away from oncoming traffic.

 

[shedracer]

I’ve seen the in the Highlands, apparently it’s a trial that been going on since 2021. They’re called PRIME markings on entries to corners to encourage road position and speed reduction to reduce mc accidents on corners. Apparently they have been very successful in the reduction of accidents. Basically it’s putting you in a road position for best view around the corner (ROSPA, IAM, police training).

 

[glenn2926]

I’ve seen the in the Highlands, apparently it’s a trial that been going on since 2021. They’re called PRIME markings on entries to corners to encourage road position and speed reduction to reduce mc accidents on corners. Apparently they have been very successful in the reduction of accidents. Basically it’s putting you in a road position for best view around the corner (ROSPA, IAM, police training).

I did think the police driver training had some input as the positioning is the same as I was taught on my EFAD courses. They are a good idea, particularly for those that have not had any further training after passing their test.

 

[MrC99]

, particularly for those that have not had any further training after passing their test.

Or for those older riders (like me) who've never had any formal training at all.

 

[ShakeyGS]

The markings, called Perceptual Rider Information for Maximising Expertise and Enjoyment (PRIMEs), are designed to help riders make better decisions when approaching bends.

I bet they spent more money on some agency to come up with that acronym than they did on the signs and markings*

*It isn't paint but grippy tape stuck to the road.

 

[Lard]

I found them very different to how you found them. I found that they pushed one away from the centre of the road and more into the centre of the lane. Therefore away from oncoming traffic.

Sorry, my poor communication, correct, centre of the lane not centre of the road!

 

[Boxed-in]

Perfect ride in the centre of the lane, where old them OLD fangled cars drip oil from them old style ICE engines. Or am I just an old cynic?

 

[Davey B]

Perfect ride in the centre of the lane, where old them OLD fangled cars drip oil from them old style ICE engines. Or am I just an old cynic?

An old cynic.....

 

[EVskiy]

Perfect ride in the centre of the lane, where old them OLD fangled cars drip oil from them old style ICE engines. Or am I just an old cynic?

An old cynic.....

 

[er-minio]

Unpopular opinion: I appreciate the sentiment, but I'd rather that people knew how to ride (and corner) rather than sticking any more shit to the asphalt to be fair.

If one cannot take a corner, especially those ones staying in their lane and "looking into the corner" they should consider a different hobby.
This is akin to speed bumps on cycle lanes in the UK ffs.

 

[Boxerboy55]

I met the Luxembourg lines this summer. I think they are better than the Scottish ones - that I've met many times.

I find our Scottish pairs of lines to be a distraction. Moving the rider focus to a very short range instead of thinking about the whole corner and not always on the line you'd like to take on any particular bend.

 

[EVskiy]

I met the Luxembourg lines this summer. I think they are better than the Scottish ones - that I've met many times.

I find our Scottish pairs of lines to be a distraction. Moving the rider focus to a very short range instead of thinking about the whole corner and not always on the line you'd like to take on any particular bend.

I like how Luxembourg ones get longer/wider as the corner tightens.
Not seen Scottish ones in person so can’t comment. But I guess it would be a bit like a tunnel vision or being blinkered.

 

[Arsey]

Austria

 

[EVskiy]

Austria

Thanks for posting same link as in a post #1