mousse on HP2 for Tuareg Rally

[smarziano]

Hallo,
my name is Simone and I write from Italy,
I have a question about the duration of mousse on my HP2. In fact the next april I will be in Morocco to partecipate at the Tuareg Rally 08. Daily I will drive for 300 km and total amount is 2600 km in a week. Which type of mousse do you suggest? which will be it duration?
Thank's Simone

 

[(RIP) philgunn]

Welcome Simone to the HP2 section on ukgsers

Welcome Simone

Last year i done the Tuareg on a HP2 and used 2 sets of mouses for the whole event , I find the front mousse not good enough and would probably go to a heavy duty front tube but on the back perfect , on the Quick piste they can run the tyres off very quickley at one stage I saw 180 Km (on GPS) on the piste .... but the michelin deserts dont last long at the rate will you have a 18" wheel on the Rear

enclosed some pics from the Tuareg

 

[GS TRV]

like the sideways foto a LOT

 

[smarziano]

Welcome Simone

Last year i done the Tuareg on a HP2 and used 2 sets of mouses for the whole event , I find the front mousse not good enough and would probably go to a heavy duty front tube but on the back perfect , on the Quick piste they can run the tyres off very quickley at one stage I saw 180 Km (on GPS) on the piste .... but the michelin deserts dont last long at the rate will you have a 18" wheel on the Rear

enclosed some pics from the Tuareg

Philgunn, thank's for your informations,
Just I've bought the 18" rear wheel,
I have another question about the Tuareg rally,
In your photos I see the original tank, in my idea I will need a new bigger tank (I would buy the HPN model), which solution do you have used for fuel?
thank's Simone

 

[(RIP) philgunn]

Standard Tank

That is what i used and brought some small 1 lt bottles, it would be better with a big tank but the Touratech tank costs nearly more than the event

you can get away with the standard tank if you watch it

pg

 

[smarziano]

That is what i used and brought some small 1 lt bottles, it would be better with a big tank but the Touratech tank costs nearly more than the event

you can get away with the standard tank if you watch it

pg

Thank you
Simone

 

[Harry Sheene]

Hi Phil,

What screen is that you are using on your HP2? Is it the Wunderlich one????

Thanks

Harry.

 

[(RIP) philgunn]

Screen

it is a £20.00 purchase from the odd mints bin in the Hein Geirke Tent at the BMF Show in 2006 but is made by a Company called PUIG, a spanish Company and I think they have a site Called http://www.puigusa.com/

phil

 

[Harry Sheene]

Thanks Phil...

Harry

 

[alfaris]

heavyest bike i´ve ever ridden on mousses was last year at morocco on a BMW X-CH on 21/18 with dirt tires. Rims where crap and front one looses its reound form leading to something similar to an square by the end of the trip.

I do not really know how much would last a set of mousses mounted on a such a brutal thing as the HP2. Or even if stock rims wil carry the extra effort.

Worst thing for mousses are asphault riding at speed and smashing rocks on the "hammada" desert.

But what is really worse is that you have to trash them after a year cause michelin menace us with its kind of self destruction..................

 

[smarziano]

Thank you Alfaris,
I will change the rims with Excel brand (and mousse) and I will hope in God. Probably I will carry the original front wheel with tube, like spare part.
Simone

heavyest bike i´ve ever ridden on mousses was last year at morocco on a BMW X-CH on 21/18 with dirt tires. Rims where crap and front one looses its reound form leading to something similar to an square by the end of the trip.

I do not really know how much would last a set of mousses mounted on a such a brutal thing as the HP2. Or even if stock rims wil carry the extra effort.

Worst thing for mousses are asphault riding at speed and smashing rocks on the "hammada" desert.

But what is really worse is that you have to trash them after a year cause michelin menace us with its kind of self destruction..................

 

[(RIP) philgunn]

Thank you Alfaris,
I will change the rims with Excel brand (and mousse) and I will hope in God. Probably I will carry the original front wheel with tube, like spare part.
Simone

I think you will find it hard to get Excel rims for the BMW bacuase BMW dirll the wheels with 40 spokes and the Hubs are drilled to go to the outside of the rim " not the centre like standard bikes , so you need "Bent Spokes" " and a excel rim drilled for 40 Holes , there are very few people that can help with that
Woodies wheelworks in the states
and the German company " Buaer" who makes the standard rims for the HP2

philgunn

 

[alfaris]

Thank you Alfaris,
I will change the rims with Excel brand (and mousse) and I will hope in God. Probably I will carry the original front wheel with tube, like spare part.
Simone

Excel is very good quality. All japo bikes coming to last morocco trip mounted excel and they didn´t have a single dent..............

 

[alfaris]

by the way, i´ve seen on wunderlich webpage that bridgestone has got a 17" rear mousse...........

 

[smarziano]

by the way, i´ve seen on wunderlich webpage that bridgestone has got a 17" rear mousse...........

thank you for the information about Bridgestone mousse, it is a new for me.
But I don't know if it is coparable to Michelin mousse.
Have you others informantions about it?
Thank's Simone

 

[alfaris]

thank you for the information about Bridgestone mousse, it is a new for me.
But I don't know if it is coparable to Michelin mousse.
Have you others informantions about it?
Thank's Simone

it is at wunderlich hp2 catalog. on wunderlich webpage.

 

[Losttheplot]

I think you will find it hard to get Excel rims for the BMW bacuase BMW dirll the wheels with 40 spokes and the Hubs are drilled to go to the outside of the rim " not the centre like standard bikes , so you need "Bent Spokes" " and a excel rim drilled for 40 Holes , there are very few people that can help with that
Woodies wheelworks in the states
and the German company " Buaer" who makes the standard rims for the HP2

philgunn

You could just change the front hub from one made by Talon engineering. Assuming you have marzzochi forks on the HP2, which are used on many other bikes, i'm sure they will already have a hub on the shelf that will fit, complete with the right number of spoke holes to match your desired rim.

Ask them nicely and they'd probably knock up a rear hub for you as well to suit.

HTH

Nathan