My Son wants to take his bike test???? Need Advice

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My 19 year old son has decided that he wants to do his bike test whilst he is on his gap year. He has been a good pillion since he was 11 years old, so has a good sense of road craft, but I want him to have the best training you can get.

He is a sensible sort, (gets it from his mother) and would like to do a full time course that would include his CBT and proper test. So then I can buy him a 650 GS.

Can anyone recommend a training school, either in West Sussex or Reading area???

I have heard the law is changing, will he still be able to ride a 33 BHP model?

Thanks in advance

Andrew
 
I reckon it would be safer to buy me a bike and I will regularly upload photo's and video's of it being used in exciting and dangerous ways for the lad :D

Old head / Young Shoulders :blagblah

I would let him get through the test before "going advanced" as I understand some advanced methods are in conflict with that is taught for the test.

The IAM riding book is pretty damn good and would make a nice stocking filler.

Bikesafe will be about again next spring, but seeing as your wealthy enough to buy a yoof a decent bike to destroy maybe just book him straight on a skills for life :thumb2
 
There are major changes coming on the 19th January 2013. At the moment your son could take his CBT and then go on to take his module 1 and 2 practical tests (having done the theory test first) on a 125 and on passing the tests he could ride a bike up to 33bhp for two years. Once the two years are up he will have no restrictions.

From the 19th January your son will be able to take a A2 motorcycle test which will mean taking the test on a bike of at least 395cc with a power output of between 27 and 47bhp. On passing his test he will be limited to a bike of no more than 47bhp for two years. Once he has the requisite two years experience if he wants to ride something with more than 47bhp he will have to take the category A test (both modules 1 and 2) on a bike of at least 595cc and with a power output of at least 54bhp. In December 2013 the minimum power output will rise to 67bhp and there will be a minimum weight of 180kg as well.
 
BUY HIM A CAR !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

JENKS said:
My 19 year old son has decided that he wants to do his bike test whilst he is on his gap year. He has been a good pillion since he was 11 years old, so has a good sense of road craft, but I want him to have the best training you can get.

He is a sensible sort, (gets it from his mother) and would like to do a full time course that would include his CBT and proper test. So then I can buy him a 650 GS.

Can anyone recommend a training school, either in West Sussex or Reading area???

I have heard the law is changing, will he still be able to ride a 33 BHP model?

Thanks in advance

Andrew
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Thats what my old man did when I was that age, in hindsight I think I would have killed myself :eek:if he had allowed the bike. Took up motorcyclying via direct access course at 40, followed by IAM training. Hated the old man at the time but grateful to him now.:blagblah
 
Pablo1 said:
Thats what my old man did when I was that age, in hindsight I think I would have killed myself :eek:if he had allowed the bike. Took up motorcyclying via direct access course at 40, followed by IAM training. Hated the old man at the time but grateful to him now.:blagblah
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There is no comparison between the passion of a young man taking up motorcycling and all that goes with it and the whims of a middle aged man seeking mild thrills in between the other mundane aspects of their settled existence.

If a child shows enough passion for anything they should be encouraged despite any patriarchal forebodings.

I do think that he should be encouraged to contribute to the costs though, to show he really does want it and to understand fully what is involved.

I thought I knew my lad well but he has really surprised me on this small journey - we've both gained a lot from it and he has proved to be a careful and talented rider who understands the risks and how long it may take after the 'test' to become a proficient and safe rider. Respect due to his instructors; they have been brilliant and he is sure to keep in touch with the school he used.
 
Get Him Going!

My brother bought a K100RS when I was 11. I was hooked on biking. I was told by my Dad I couldn't have a bike and was 'Helped' in buying a car. I did my Direct Access when I was 29 and I still feel I should have bitten the bullet and got my test when I was 17. All those years on a bike lost!

If your son is a sensible sort and already has a good idea of roadsense, then help him get his licence and train him up properly. If bikes are in his blood, he won't be content until he has 'been there and done it'.

How badly does he want to ride??

All the best

Brad
 
Having started riding not that long ago, and having just been through the IAM process I would thoroughly recommend it once he has done his test. My observer had an associate a few years ago who passed his test just after his 17th birthday, and got his IAM pass before he was 18. It will make him a much better and safer rider.

If he gets through his test very soon then he'll be on the existing system, 33bhp for two years then restriction lifted, otherwise he'll be under the new system.

Bear in mind that under either system there is a gap between mod 1 and mod 2 so you can't do an intensive course of a few days and finish up with your test like you used to.
 
Ewan said:
Bear in mind that under either system there is a gap between mod 1 and mod 2 so you can't do an intensive course of a few days and finish up with your test like you used to.
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That's not true. You could book a module 1 and 2 test on the same day, but the problem is if you fail the module 1 test you have to wait 3 working days before you can take it again. You would then forfeit your £75 module 2 test fee as cancelling the test on the same day is too short notice to get a refund from the DSA.
 
My oldest lad just passed his test aged 19 1/2 and now has a restricted DRZ 400 SM. How does the time limit work ?
Does he have to wait the full 2 years before he can increase the hp or is it 1 1/2 years when he reaches 21 ? :confused:
 
GeorgeH said:
My oldest lad just passed his test aged 19 1/2 and now has a restricted DRZ 400 SM. How does the time limit work ?
Does he have to wait the full 2 years before he can increase the hp or is it 1 1/2 years when he reaches 21 ? :confused:
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It's two years after passing his test George.
 
He could take his DAS test when he reaches 21 if he is in a tearing hurry but that hardly seems worth it for the sake of just waiting six months.:thumb
 
Lord Snooty said:
He could take his DAS test when he reaches 21 if he is in a tearing hurry but that hardly seems worth it for the sake of just waiting six months.:thumb
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Will he be able to convert a current test pass on a 125 to a A class licence when the new regs come in Mike?
 
Thanks Guys, bloody confusing isn't it?

I bought a new MZ 250 on my 17th Birthday. (saved really hard for that £537.00) 1 month later took my test which was a 20 minute ride around the block, and PASSED. since then I have done my IAM several times.

I knew he should have done it in the Summer, how ever he has booked his CBT but I doubt he'll be able to get his test done by the 19 January. Shame. He has being putting this off for a couple of years because he was still at school doing his A's, and didn't want me to have yet more expense. Now working full time at Hafrauds Reading to earn some money for Uni. He's certainly not a free loader, just wants to join in the fun.

Andrew
 
Andrew,

He has two months so it could be done, but the main problem will be getting test dates. If he goes with a training school that block books test dates in advance then he might have a chance.
 
Bob Southgate said:
Andrew,

He has two months so it could be done, but the main problem will be getting test dates. If he goes with a training school that block books test dates in advance then he might have a chance.
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Bob,

Thanks for your encouragement, my son has read all the posts, and is more determined to do it now. The ONLY way he is going to do this is with FULL training, with a school, both pre and post tests. Could I teach him, I guess I could, but I would prefer a Pro to teach him, when he's on the road we will be riding a lot together so he'll learn from my experience. I hope.

Andrew
 
JENKS said:
Bob,

Thanks for your encouragement, my son has read all the posts, and is more determined to do it now. The ONLY way he is going to do this is with FULL training, with a school, both pre and post tests. Could I teach him, I guess I could, but I would prefer a Pro to teach him, when he's on the road we will be riding a lot together so he'll learn from my experience. I hope.

Andrew
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Andrew,

Good luck with it as the new legislation will have a significant impact on your son. One of my trainees passed her mod 1 today and she has managed to book a mod 2 test on the 1st December this afternoon, so dates are still available.

He will be better off with a training scheme without a doubt, given the constraints of time.
 
Bob Southgate said:
Will he be able to convert a current test pass on a 125 to a A class licence when the new regs come in Mike?
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Bob, I'm really not sure, at the moment the whole situation is as clear as mud and despite requests to the DSA we are still waiting for precise clarification on how the new system will work. Great eh! Two months to go before this new legislation is invoked and the government agency responsible are unable to give us chapter and verse. I've a feeling it is going to be overly complicated and will need a flow chart to work it all out:mad:
 
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