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Jotski said:
could be the setup for your boots or could be the long ride just wearing the gears in :thumby: any issues since or would you say it's fixed it
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Fixed as far as I'm concerned Jotski. :thumb

I had the problem with both pairs of boots I have - my light pair of boots and was even worse with with my new TCXes.
 
Sloppy linkage

I have already added my comments that I was shocked at how much play was in the gear lever mounting point. I think this could be a contributing factor to poor gear changes.
 
jonnyp said:
shortywilliam said:
All three 1200GS WC I have ridden had the same very poor gear change so that's 100% of the GS's I know.


Are you sure they were all poor........couldn't have been you could it??....:nenau
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Believe me that thought went through my mind and I even mentioned it to the dealer that I my after 30 odd years of riding bikes I may have lost the simple ability of changing gear. I even changed my boots to make sure that that was not the problem.
But I then took out there F800 demo bike and it has a really good gear box then a Triumph explorer it too was ok then a Ducati gran tourismo multi strada which I was thinking of buying (I am that sick of the gearbox) but I still prefer the GS and it was to much money to change after only four months.
Please don't get me wrong apart from the gear change and the switch gear etc. I really like the bike it is a massive improvement to ride over the last few GS's I have owned and I can not find anything like better.

Too all the people who have no concerns with their bike I am honestly glad that you got what you paid for it must make the bike a joy to ride.

My bike has now over 7000 miles on it and till they fix the gear change I will not be ordering a new GSA. Don't get me wrong I work for a living and usually only change bikes every 3 or 4 years
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MrB-239 said:
I test rode a demo machine from BMW in Northampton and found the gearbox somewhat clunky. I eventually bought an ex-demo machine from the BMW garage in Oxford and found the gearbox even worse. Sometimes it would not change gear when I wanted and it just felt pretty rubbish in general.

I then spent a little time adjusting the position of the gear level. Pretty simple to do. And it seems to have sorted all my problems. I've just got back from a 4 day, 1300 mile trip to the Scottish Highlands and had no missed gears what so ever. It all seems pretty smooth now.

I'm not saying this is a general fix for all gearbox problems, but for those of you who find it 'clunky' like I did may want to investigate this.

The bike I bought must have been one of the first models in the UK as it was registered in April 2013.
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So that people with gearbox problems can adjust their lever to the same angle as yours, how about a picture?:thumb
 
Sure thing. Not sure how much you'll be able to get out of it, but here goes...
(never added images before so I hope it works)
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Wow, those pictures are huge! Do you have one from slightly further away, so people can see the angle of the gear lever compared to the footpegs?
 
I see the Problem

That is the cleanest GS I've seen to date , even under the microscope it's clean. You need mud and dirt mixed in with those linkages to make the changes smooth.:aidan
I was at my dealer yesterday , chasing up my Ackro and lights , meant to ask if they had any complaints about gearboxes. My bike was made in June which would indicate same production type everyone else as I'm told BMW change model runs in August . Box clunks into first like most others but is good after that. The box is not good at racing changes but I would't think the bike's design criteria was for it to be. Since the box threads started I take particular notice , and I'm sure others do , this would be the best boxer box I've experienced and I've owned a few .
 
shortywilliam said:
That's not very polite, I would have thought you would have had enough problems just being an Australian.

But I will simplify things for you as I know English is not your first language

THE GEAR CHANGE ON IS SHITE
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:comfort its okay shorty, it's not your fault that no one thought you how to ride or change gears correctly. Not sure what they teach you kids in schools now days anyways.

Here is a little gear change 101 class for you. Its even in Pom to make it easy to understand. :rob

http://youtu.be/MIhycth8msU
 
Here is the photo further away as requested Mr Nutty.

Apologies for the original large photos. I think I've adjusted them now.

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Bails - just returned from a 1300mile round trip to Scotland so it hasn't been ridden since then (my arse is still recovering!) You wouldn't have said that prior to its clean.:)
 
GSWizz said:
I have already added my comments that I was shocked at how much play was in the gear lever mounting point. I think this could be a contributing factor to poor gear changes.
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I've just checked mine GSWizz, and there is absolutely no play whatsoever. Move the gear level even slightly and it moves the shaft into the gearbox casing instantly. Any slack will certainly cause poor/faulty gear changes.
 
OZGSer said:
:comfort its okay shorty, it's not your fault that no one thought you how to ride or change gears correctly. Not sure what they teach you kids in schools now days anyways.

Here is a little gear change 101 class for you. Its even in Pom to make it easy to understand. :rob

http://youtu.be/MIhycth8msU
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Thanks mate I even watched it all the way through with out falling asleep.:rob

But its the fast changes at high revs that are the worst especially 1st to 2nd to 3rd to 4th.
Clutch less up shifts are fine. the fault is supposedly clutch drag due to far to much oil getting into the clutch. So I am told.(hence the new modified clutch push rod, there is a BMW part number for it ask your dealer)

Anyway after my mistook with English I would haave thought you wood have taken more kare with your thought and taught

And as for roadcraft jeans and cycling gloves is a very poor example to set to us less God like riders.
 
MrB-239 said:
Here is the photo further away as requested Mr Nutty.

Apologies for the original large photos. I think I've adjusted them now.
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That's better!:thumb:D

So, anyone with gearchange issues can look at the angle of their gearlever compared to the footpeg, and see if adjusting it the same as yours makes the changes any smoother.:rob
 
The Nutty GSER said:
That's better!:thumb:D

So, anyone with gearchange issues can look at the angle of their gearlever compared to the footpeg, and see if adjusting it the same as yours makes the changes any smoother.:rob
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Or..................why don't the few owners with perfect gear changes adjust to where the OP originally had the gear lever and see if their gear changes are now suspect :rolleyes:

Surely a smooth gear change is helped by having a gear lever in a place that works for the individual rider (type of boot, change with the welt or the toe, ride with balls of the feet on the pegs or instep etc etc etc........................)

This is the equivalant of car crash TV on the interweb :D

Andres
 
Looking at Mr B's post at 10:12 hrs the 4 pivot points appear to form a rectangle which means that the movement of the foot lever at the link rod pivot is reproduced exactly at the actuation lever on the gearbox shaft. If the foot lever was adjusted higher by shortening the barrel adjuster the amount of movement on the actuation lever would be reduced,

Could that be the cause of missed gears and failure to change?
 
Hi Packer, I don't think the peg will move any higher. When adjusting, it seemed to move to the maximum but I didn't put too much pressure on the linkage, as the position seemed to be right when adjusted. I might be wrong though.

I would agree with Outtomunch in that much of this depends on the individual rider and the footwear, but experimenting with different positions (oooh err!) wouldn't be too much effort.
 
I know it's an added expense , :blast

But if you go for the BMW adjustable foot pegs, I'm sure you'll find the right position for the largest/smallest feet/footpegs/gear lever combination you'd ever want :D

Also the added bonus on the right side for the brake lever/ peg combination,

The BMW adjustable foot pegs and the Wunderlich 40/40 Bar back risers are the best mods i've done to my bike:D
 
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