Nav II shutting itself down - help!

[Dinger]

I've just come back from the Pyrennees (through Fance). After setting off from Zeebrugge the unit shut down about 10 seconds after acquiring satellites (If I left it alone it would eventually power back up, usually to do the same thing again. This happened numerous times during the trip but worked OK the whole way back and I can't replicate the problem since returning. It is still covered by the bike's 2 year warranty and the dealer says he'll have a look next week when I take the bike in for its service but it's an intermittent problem and I'm worried that it'll come back after the warranty runs out.
Has anyone else had this problem, I don't even know if it's the Garmin or the 1200GS's clever ( ) power network that's to blame.

 

[John Armstrong]

Try it in the car?

Won't have the same vibration / moisture etc climatic conditions but it might help narrow it down.

 

[Clive]

Has anyone else had this problem, I don't even know if it's the Garmin or the 1200GS's clever ( ) power network that's to blame.

Have you seen this thread? http://www.ukgser.com/forums/showthread.php?t=60254&page=1&pp=40

 

[Dinger]

Have you seen this thread? http://www.ukgser.com/forums/showthread.php?t=60254&page=1&pp=40

Thanks for that.... I think

I'm off in the garage to wiggle some wires.

 

[Brian Anderson]

Nav Shut Down

May be completely different but my BMW Nav 1 was shutting down, or rather losing external source power, going onto battery back up (which I don'tvthink the 2610 has), and also cutting out sound from Autocom. My excellent dealer in Northampton looked into the problem I was having and told me that it was liklely to be the autocom which is shutting down the ACC power socket. Autocoms will work ok by themselves but as soon as you put another load across it (sat nav) some bikes start to play up.
Autocom were aware of the problem and now supply a switching relay to power the autocom for bikes with the CAN-BUS system. They got one for me which I fitted last weekend and problem now solved completely!! Cost of relay £20ish, having Sat Nav and music - priceless!!

Good luck!

 

[PanEuropean]

Sounds like the same question that was posted in this thread: Problem with 2720. hard drive/solid state? - same answer, too, so I won't bother repeating myself here.

Michael

 

[Wapping]

I've just come back from the Pyrennees (through Fance). After setting off from Zeebrugge the unit shut down about 10 seconds after acquiring satellites (If I left it alone it would eventually power back up, usually to do the same thing again. This happened numerous times during the trip but worked OK the whole way back and I can't replicate the problem since returning. It is still covered by the bike's 2 year warranty and the dealer says he'll have a look next week when I take the bike in for its service but it's an intermittent problem and I'm worried that it'll come back after the warranty runs out.
Has anyone else had this problem, I don't even know if it's the Garmin or the 1200GS's clever ( ) power network that's to blame.

EDIT: OOPS, SHOULD HAVE LOOKED AT THE LINKS ABOVE

Dinger,

I had the same problem a couple of times with my BMW Nav II on my 1200GS, plugged directly into the loom, via the factory fit socket by the headstock.

The cause and cure were both quite simple. The power lead, terminating in the triangular shaped 'plug' at the device end, had corroded slightly. The 'pins' on the triangular 'plug' were slightly dirty and the 'contacts' on the device were slightly green. A quick scratch with a penknife blade, coupled to a gentle freeing of the pins and all was well.

From experience with similar very low current draw devices, it is easy for electrical contact to be lost through slightly dirty contacts. Probably the 1200's can system interprets this loss as a real fault and shuts the spur down. The corrosion is not 100% so the device appears (at least to the can) to be faulty, then good, then faulty, leading to a cycle of the can shutting down, restarting, shutting down at regular intervals (I could time mine at about 20 seconds as I rode down the motorway wondering what was happening to my GPS switching itself on and off). Similarly, turning the device, or the ignition, off and on again 'tricks' the can into believing that the fault is curred, re-opening the circuit. The dirt then makes itself felt again and the can closes down again.

So, keep the contacts clean and all should be well. A little electrical grease should help but it does attract grit.

 

[Dinger]

EDIT: OOPS, SHOULD HAVE LOOKED AT THE LINKS ABOVE

Dinger,

I had the same problem a couple of times with my BMW Nav II on my 1200GS, plugged directly into the loom, via the factory fit socket by the headstock.

The cause and cure were both quite simple. The power lead, terminating in the triangular shaped 'plug' at the device end, had corroded slightly. The 'pins' on the triangular 'plug' were slightly dirty and the 'contacts' on the device were slightly green. A quick scratch with a penknife blade, coupled to a gentle freeing of the pins and all was well.

From experience with similar very low current draw devices, it is easy for electrical contact to be lost through slightly dirty contacts. Probably the 1200's can system interprets this loss as a real fault and shuts the spur down. The corrosion is not 100% so the device appears (at least to the can) to be faulty, then good, then faulty, leading to a cycle of the can shutting down, restarting, shutting down at regular intervals (I could time mine at about 20 seconds as I rode down the motorway wondering what was happening to my GPS switching itself on and off). Similarly, turning the device, or the ignition, off and on again 'tricks' the can into believing that the fault is curred, re-opening the circuit. The dirt then makes itself felt again and the can closes down again.

So, keep the contacts clean and all should be well. A little electrical grease should help but it does attract grit.

Sounds good to me, I'll keep my eye on that. It hasn't shut itself down for about 800 miles now. (Probably waiting til I'm on the Peripherique )