Negative Aspects from First Rides

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The following is an extract from motorcycle.com.

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However, the GS did disappoint me during a casual ride down an open dirt road. I was standing up to get cool air through my riding gear, traveling about 45 mph, when I encountered a washboard section. In an instant and with seemingly no provocation, the bike went into a wild tankslapper that threatened to throw me from the bike. It was a very panicked second before the steering regained its composure.

We can’t yet say for certain this is a problem with the bike, but another journalist reported a similar experience when he was riding while standing. This is quite unexpected considering the chassis geometry is essentially unchanged from the previous model, plus there were no stability issues whatsoever during high-speed road riding. We wonder if perhaps the Dynamic ESA allowed the front suspension to pack down over the washboard surface, reducing its rake and trail to less stable geometry. Or perhaps the GS will end up with a steering damper when deliveries begin in March of this year.

Otherwise, the 2013 R1200GS is a multi-faceted success. Its ground-up redesign means everything has changed. That means there’s a lot of places to potentially go wrong, yet each change to the new GS is a definite upgrade. It’s familiar but better in nearly every aspect.

Pricing info in America has yet to be announced, but you can expect MSRPs about $1000 more than last year if Canadian prices, already released, are any indication.

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This issue is eluded to in today's MCN glowing report

Full report on

http://www.motorcycle.com/manufacturer/bmw/2013-bmw-r1200gs-review-91507.html
 
Shouldn't be an issue for UK riders though as the TRF say 20mph is the maximum speed for UK byways.

:nenau
 
Well that's ok cos I am going for a base model without all the electronic suspension stuff, even though I earn my living from electronic gizmos I avoid fancy computer controlled systems on motorcycles.
 
Well that's ok cos I am going for a base model without all the electronic suspension stuff, even though I earn my living from electronic gizmos I avoid fancy computer controlled systems on motorcycles.

It was pure speculation that 'gizmo stuff' was at fault, but two journo's scared shitless and one killed whilst riding them does raise a few questions:augie
 
It was pure speculation that 'gizmo stuff' was at fault, but two journo's scared shitless and one killed whilst riding them does raise a few questions:augie

One can wonder, ponder and speculate, I guess we'll soon find out after March - when the Beta testers are let loose in the real world
 
It was pure speculation that 'gizmo stuff' was at fault, but two journo's scared shitless and one killed whilst riding them does raise a few questions:augie

One can wonder, ponder and speculate, I guess we'll soon find out after March - when the Beta testers are let loose in the real world

:eek: I'm getting a bit scared now:D
 
We wonder if perhaps the Dynamic ESA allowed the front suspension to pack down over the washboard surface, reducing its rake and trail to less stable geometry.

I thought the telelever front end meant rake and trail weren't affected by suspension movements, unlike "normal" telescopic forks... :nenau
 
It was pure speculation that 'gizmo stuff' was at fault, but two journo's scared shitless and one killed whilst riding them does raise a few questions:augie

We don't know the circumstances of Kevin Ash's death yet so to speculate that it could be a problem with the bike is irresponsible at best.
 
Let's face it....read the report in MCN on the new GS and its great. So it is not wonderful in the dirt, well after 2 gas 1200`s, they were not great in the dirt. Yes they all can travel over dirt but they are not and never will be dirt bikes....roll on march and play time :D
 
After launch, BETA testers found how really good the ST1300 and TL1000S were:D

"Beta testers" no trouble I'm experienced! Brought one of the first TL1000s nix steering damper. Then the press got going about on about how dangerous it was so under said pressure Suzuki recalled for steering damper fitment kept that on for a day. Wanted to say killed the handling but thought better of it so forget the killed bit.

Great bike in original format as the "skinny" japs intended don't believe everything in the press.

GS LC bring it on :beer:
 
I thought the telelever front end meant rake and trail weren't affected by suspension movements, unlike "normal" telescopic forks... :nenau

It's not quite that simple. The thing that makes the Teleleaver different is more simply that they do not dive under braking.

A full parallelogram system has two swing arms (often of different lengths). These not only keep the wheel base much more constant but also allow the suspension to continue to work even when the brake is fully locked on, the same as telescopic forks (but without the loss of rake in the geometry)

iirc Parallelograms are fitted to the K1000 sport tourer.


Val.
 
Seems that the current 12GS does that as well :augie

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Odd that the naysayers aren't replying to my post:augie
 
It's not quite that simple. The thing that makes the Teleleaver different is more simply that they do not dive under braking.

A full parallelogram system has two swing arms (often of different lengths). These not only keep the wheel base much more constant but also allow the suspension to continue to work even when the brake is fully locked on, the same as telescopic forks (but without the loss of rake in the geometry)

iirc Parallelograms are fitted to the K1000 sport tourer.


Val.

I realise Girder forks are like that. I thought the arc that the telelever prescribes keeps the wheelbase static, unlike normal tele's that shorten the wheelbase under braking.

Don't know why I thought that. I guess I'm wrong :bow
 


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