That is a big 'off'. Good that the rider was OKish. Swing arm was shattered. Amazed it was still attached?
Tarmac will remain my off road territory
Tarmac will remain my off road territory
Negative Aspects from First Rides
- Thread starter roundincircles
- Start date
I realise Girder forks are like that. I thought the arc that the telelever prescribes keeps the wheelbase static, unlike normal tele's that shorten the wheelbase under braking.
Don't know why I thought that. I guess I'm wrong
If the sliding forks compress then the front wheel must move closer to the rear wheel, as it moves up it is moving backwards.........yes. So the wheel base shortens. The telelever seperates the braking force from the steering force, why?, because it does and it says so in the BMW brochure
Odd that the naysayers aren't replying to my post
A well ridden GSXR would have had 'im.....
Deleted account 181015003
Registered user
- Joined
- Jun 16, 2012
- Messages
- 13,017
- Reaction score
- 4
It was pure speculation that 'gizmo stuff' was at fault, but two journo's scared shitless and one killed whilst riding them does raise a few questions
New WC owner " Its trying to kill me!"
Dealer "Yes Sir they all do that its normal, its part of the character of the bike"
Bike Magazine's write up on the new wc found that their bike went into a wild tank slapper breaking off both steering stops .They gave it 4 stars because of these stability issues . It will be interesting to see how it performs on the UK launch , or on a test ride from next weekend .
chad
Registered user
whats the problem
think on the positive side , the LC riders will be labled the same as the old TL riders
you will be regarded as men of steel with giant Titainium Cajones and sexy women will fall at your feet its a win win
think on the positive side , the LC riders will be labled the same as the old TL riders
you will be regarded as men of steel with giant Titainium Cajones and sexy women will fall at your feet its a win win
chad
Registered user
Seems that the current 12GS does that as well
<iframe width="640" height="360" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/4yDtCWJ4g9Y?feature=player_embedded" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
thats a fookin big shunt
and lets face it they were ramping it up a bit 
GS_or_bust
Registered user
If the sliding forks compress then the front wheel must move closer to the rear wheel, as it moves up it is moving backwards.........yes. So the wheel base shortens. The telelever seperates the braking force from the steering force, why?, because it does and it says so in the BMW brochure
The wheel moves vertically (slightly curved) as this animation shows.
pinkytiff
Registered user
Just been fortunate enough to have spent the day riding about 200k around Morrocco on the new bike along with umpteen others. I've done plenty of offroad with my 2007GS but riding the new one with gizmos allowed it to make mincemeat of situations that I'd have struggled with on mine. The "A" team we certainly pushing the bikes to the limits and no one encountered any worrying behaviour. If you like the old one I reckon you're gonna love this.
chad
Registered user
That's helpful feedback. How many LCD bikes on the trip? What else was good about riding it?
But the telelever suspension under compression shortens the wheelbase to a much lesser extent than telescopic forks do - check this link out
http://www.dinamoto.it/dinamoto/8_on-line_papers/Telelever or forks/Telelever.html
http://www.dinamoto.it/dinamoto/8_on-line_papers/Telelever or forks/Telelever.html
It may seem that I have been a bit negative in a couple of postings, but I was just 'having a bit o fun'.
I think its a nice bike. Looks miles better than the previous 12, and looking at that animation Fanum posted, quite inovative.
I just mentioned that because I'm going to comment about it again.... even though I will never have one, so really shouldn't try spoil it for others.
But ...
Nobody has mentioned the guy from Adventure bike riders forum/magazine, Alun, who was (as far as I read) quite badly injured when he crashed one and has not wrote a single word on his forum about the circumstances as far as I know . Strange for a journalist dont you think
I think its a nice bike. Looks miles better than the previous 12, and looking at that animation Fanum posted, quite inovative.
I just mentioned that because I'm going to comment about it again.... even though I will never have one, so really shouldn't try spoil it for others.
But ...
Nobody has mentioned the guy from Adventure bike riders forum/magazine, Alun, who was (as far as I read) quite badly injured when he crashed one and has not wrote a single word on his forum about the circumstances as far as I know . Strange for a journalist dont you think
No sign,mention or talk of "Tank Slappers" or "Instability"on any GS forum in Germany(by far the biggest GS market). Perhaps problems occur only on the Right hand drive models 
I haven't read Bike magazine for years but they tend to favour KTM over the GS (suspect this is driven by advertising) so it comes as no surprise.
If you experience a tank slapper off road is it the fault of the bike or the rider - or maybe just an unfortunate set of circumstances ?
If it happens on road it's another matter.
I'm pretty sure that Alun's accident was connected to the Kevin Ash accident - which is still being investigated by the SA police - so it's probably legal issues that are keeping things quiet on that front.
