New F800GS and F700GS

[Tim Cullis]

More information from Vines: http://blog.vinesbmwbikes.co.uk/2012/07/bmw-f-700-gs-bmw-f-800-gs.html

The front pads on my F650GS only lasted 6000 miles--if I was living in a hilly area like the Alps, they wouldn't last that long, so adding a second disk/pads set makes some sense.

Much of the higher BHP on the F700GS (see F650 vs F700 power curves below) is gained at the extreme top end of the rev range.

The F700GS gearing is lower as well (17:42 sprockets vs 17:41 on the F650GS twin) which will help acceleration at the expense of higher revs at motorway speeds. Pity the gearbox ratios weren't widened so that you could have lower first and second whilst keeping the higher gears. The F700GS now requires the use of what BMW terms 'premium fuel' which is RON95. An optional engine map is available to run RON91 but will undoubtedly lower the power slightly. If you see a reference to RDC that's the tyre pressure monitor.

The Osta Grey matt metallic F700GS looks cool.

Pity BMW didn't go further developing the F800GS. Is this really BMW's answer for the next three years to the Tiger XC? I can't honesty say ASC or ESA excite me. The front forks are still not adjustable.

The speedo is still analogue (I love the ability on the Tenere to switch the display to km when I'm in Europe or Africa). Both bikes are available in a restricted 48HP version for new riders. Both are available with lowered suspension for partially heighted riders.

All BMW bikes from MY13 production (officially starts August) will have ABS as standard. Launch and limited availability expected September 2012.

Tim

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[MarkyRR]

......The F700GS gearing is lower as well (17:42 sprockets vs 17:43 on the F650GS twin) which will help acceleration at the expense of higher revs at motorway speeds......

Isn't it the other way round when going down a tooth on the rear sprocket? ie - would lessen the rev's at motorway speeds (more relaxed higher speed), and slow up the acceleration (in comparison)?

 

[Greggers]

It looks the same, only different ....

Wait for the 800 to be discontinued to be replaced with a new model powered by the 900 Nuda motor...

 

[Tim Cullis]

Isn't it the other way round when going down a tooth on the rear sprocket? ie - would lessen the rev's at motorway speeds (more relaxed higher speed), and slow up the acceleration (in comparison)?

Sorry, the original ratios were 17:41 for the F650GS and 16:42 for the F800GS. I've corrected the error above.

 

[flytoolow]

I kinda like this...New F700GS anyone...

http://www.autoevolution.com/news/bmw-reveals-new-fg700gs-and-f800gs-46801.html

 

[smudge62]

Have seen the 800's yesterday at Garmisch must say the colours other than the new "brown" one looked a bit understated for a bike with dual sport ambitions. The revised styling of the "tank" surrounds looked odd as they revert to plain black plastic where your knee's touch.
Also seeing the indicator button only on the left was strange as was the new centre stand. Do wonder as ABS is standard on all 2013 year models what movement on price upwards there will be.

 

[skywalker]

Looks fine - no real differences to my 09 one really.

Shame that as normal, BMW feel they can sell a bike which will need to have lots of 'options' in order to make it a decent all 'round bike. I bet teh screen and seat will be the first things needing to be changed by most folk.

What weight savings and fuel economy improvements will it have i wonder ?

I can't see me selling my 800 for this anytime soon

Why did they feel the need to tilt the photo ? What does that do ?

????? Harley's have been doing that for years ?????

 

[Tim Cullis]

Do wonder as ABS is standard on all 2013 year models what movement on price upwards there will be.

At the moment ABS is an extra £730, though for an extra £195 you can specify the 'comfort pack' (weird name) which also includes heated grips (normally £230) plus centre stand (£125).

 

[Bury_Dave]

£730 for something you don't need ? I'd rather pump my brake than just squeeze as tightly as possible and let technology do the rest - hopefully.

Is the centre stand as offset and crap looking as the one I have on my bike ? I'm seriously thinking of getting a different one (Wunderlich ?) as trying to get your foot on it to put it down is fiddly.

 

[smudge62]

Centre stand looked to be as it is now but cut off before it starts to curve like at present

 

[v8legend]

I had a look around the 800 today at NOG. The plastics are noticeably different around the dummy tank/air scoops. Also, it looks like they have eventually addressed the top hose/water pump issue. There is now a bulge for the hose clamp to grip. The rectifier and rear master cylinder have also been moved. I like the new(ish) speedo, and the addition of ESA. It's a shame they didn't go the whole hog and fit the 900 Nuda motor.

 

[thomo57]

It looks as though they have fitted a better center stand, with proper 'feet' and a proper arm you get your boot onto...
Mines a pain in the arse to get onto, with the Vario panniers on..

 

[rodooo]

i think the nuda engine will go in the gs in the next few years as now the water cooled twelve has had a power upgrade. as it is, a 100hp 800 would surely leave the current big gs redundant.

 

[Dean]

What is it with the more BHP pursuit?

You will end up a power Ranger.








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