New French law

paul nicholls said:
do you think that with all these new rules that they will start to persue us for the fines from the fixed cameras?
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Yes, probably more so now that European countries have recently signed a new agreement making it much easier (and expensive for the guilty) to follow the trail across borders. Italy are now at it with a vengeance so expect others to follow suit.
 
A bit more to add on this subject having just received my ADAC newsletter. Not only is there an 11€ fine if, when stopped, you cannot produce a breathalyser kit, but you also have to produce one within 5 days to the French police. Failure to do so risks a further fine of €90. And yes......you will be chased up in your home country for it.
 
paul nicholls said:
ive been flashed by the cameras lots of times and never had any come back.
do you think that with all these new rules that they will start to persue us for the fines from the fixed cameras?
paul.
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AlanI said:
Yes, probably more so now that European countries have recently signed a new agreement making it much easier (and expensive for the guilty) to follow the trail across borders. Italy are now at it with a vengeance so expect others to follow suit.
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errr no, there is no agreement between the UK and other EU countries.

what "might" happen is the french pass it onto the home office and your local plod will deliver it.

you can bin it as they cant do anything.

However if you go back to france they might pull you at point of entry.
 
MikeP said:
I can see a marketing opportunity here:



for someone who makes one of those mesh-type black vests with the words "Bloody Stupid French Laws" (or similar) in reflective tape. As long as the lettering adds-up to at least the minimum 150cm2.
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swissrob said:
errr no, there is no agreement between the UK and other EU countries.

what "might" happen is the french pass it onto the home office and your local plod will deliver it.

you can bin it as they cant do anything.

However if you go back to france they might pull you at point of entry.
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What happened to the guy caught speeding in Switzerland - when the British plod turned up on his doorstep :confused:
 
he has not posted back, he wasnt a frequent visitor to the site so doubt we will find out and he is not accepting PM's. However no legal agreement exists for it to have been enforced in the UK anyway, if it did he would have been required to attend the plod station - it was a request.

I hope he told them to bugger off.

as in the UK speeding here is a criminal offence, if its serious enough and they cant trace you it is converted into a suspended prison sentence. This is held on file in the RIPOL database for 3 years.
 
What is the spec (size / position / number required) for reflective helmet stickers in France?

I have ordered a breathalyser and had the rest on board already, what a load of crap!
 
I have been looking into this HI-Viz issue and it seems that most people have got it wrong!!

It seems it is NOT a Hi-Viz jacket or armband that has to be worn, the regulation is for a 'reflective' area of not less than 150 cm2. This is so you can be seen at night time and not during the day!! So if that is the case thank f**k for that.

Here is a link to the regulation so it looks like most of us can breath a sigh of relief as most jackets have some reflective material just need to make sure it is of the correct size and if not just add some silver, or whatever colour reflective material you want!

http://www.moto-net.com/images/breves/2012/01/joe_20120104_0003_00056154845382743994341.pdf
 
depends what the definition of reflective is really.

my jacket is already 100% reflective, or i'd have great difficulty finding it.
 
This extract taken from the AA page I mentioned earlier.....

Reflective clothing for motorcyclists

Early warning for next winter. From 1 January 2013 all drivers and passengers of a motorcycle over 125cc or a motor tricycle over 15 KW/h must wear reflective clothing when riding their vehicles and in the event of an emergency stop/breakdown.

Clothing must have a minimum reflective surface of 150cm2 (approx 23in2) in total, either in one piece or in several pieces, and must be worn between the neck and waist.

So, it's not a case of a yellow viz jacket or an orange one which in themselves are not reflective...........simply bright. They do, however, have integrated reflective bands/strips and this is the point being made here. Wear whatever floats your boat so long as it meets the minimum size requirements and, of course, is reflective.
 
You have a box 16? Cannot see it on mine . . Lol

David Lee said:
This is very interesting.

I just checked my photo style drivers licence and I have the 01 coding in box 12.

I have never declared that I wear glasses to anyone, but I guess that the photo showing me with glasses on did the trick :D
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If your French is good enough to convince the plod that what doesn't at first appear to be 'reflective' is in fact 'reflective' then I don't see why not.
Me - I've gone with a Kushitani vest as I've decided that living a few more hours/days/weeks/months.....hopefully years...... is far more important to me that this so-called 'cool' factor of always wearing black. I might revert to the old ways if, at some future time, they reintroduce the driving test once again assuming of course that driving instructors who actually know what they are talking about still exist. At the moment it's a case of the blind leading the blind and if my bit of reflective helps those in need of a white stick see me then so much the better.
 
That's the way I would interpret it John.

Each to their own about what you wear on the bike but for me and 31 years of not wearing it I will not be putting any Hi-Viz on.

I was really hoping that the French might have neglected to have included the words 'must be visible to other road users' and had just said something like 'must be worn' so that I could have worn it under my jacket :D
 
Sleepy said:
Errr... care to translate..? :nenau
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Article 1: From 1st January 2013 all riders or passengers of any motorcycle over 125cc or of a category L5e (:nenau) vehicle with a power output greater than 15 kW must wear clothing with reflective material (Note: Reflective NOT Hi-Viz!) which meets French standards or other standards providing an equivalent level of safety (!).

This equipment (i.e. material), either in one piece or made of multiple pieces, must be of a total surface area of at least 150 cm2.
If the reflective material does not form an integral part of the clothing, it must be worn over it. The material must be worn on the upper part of the body, excluding the helmet, between the waist line and shoulders in such a way that it is visible to other road users.

Article. 2. − "Le délégué à la sécurité et à la circulation routières" (the responsible government department(s) and its/their associated law enforcement bodies) are charged with the implementation of this statute which will be published in the Official Journal of the French Republic.

HTH
 
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