New GSA now or wait for 1300 in years time

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Just wondering what you guys think.
Cost to change now£5500.
I’ve been offered a new 1250Gsa Trophy for August delivery only against my 2019 1250Gsa Rallye HP (4years old in September)which I tempted to take especially as mine needs a service, new pads and tyres which makes the deal even better.
I’ll be doing more miles over the next 3years so I could keep the existing one which would make it less desirable when I come to change.
Also I’m sure the outgoing 1250 will drop in value when the new 1300 arrives as people change up which will make the higher mileage ones even less desirable.
The advantage of changing now is all the extras can be swooped over so incurring less expense, new warranty and piece of mind if things go wrong for the next 3yrs.
The new 1300 will be tried and tested by the time I come to change again.
I’ve had no issues with the existing bike and it’s still immaculate but the seeds been planted and I can’t decide what would best.


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its a no brainer in my eyes, 3 years extended warranty on your existing bike would probably be in the range of £2,000, service, pads and tyres would be another £600+, so realisticly £3,000 to change . Always better to hold on a year at least when a new version comes out...
 
Go for the new 1250. As you said 3 years warranty with that piece of mind and gives others time to do the beta testing on the 1300. Obviously things could still go wrong but you'd think (hope) that the 1250 will be as reliable as possible now it's at the end of it's run and if not you're still covered by the factory warranty. I'm going for an RS for similar reasons
 
Rex800 said:
Just wondering what you guys think.
Cost to change now£5500.
I’ve been offered a new 1250Gsa Trophy for August delivery only against my 2019 1250Gsa Rallye HP (4years old in September)which I tempted to take especially as mine needs a service, new pads and tyres which makes the deal even better.
I’ll be doing more miles over the next 3years so I could keep the existing one which would make it less desirable when I come to change.
Also I’m sure the outgoing 1250 will drop in value when the new 1300 arrives as people change up which will make the higher mileage ones even less desirable.
The advantage of changing now is all the extras can be swooped over so incurring less expense, new warranty and piece of mind if things go wrong for the next 3yrs.
The new 1300 will be tried and tested by the time I come to change again.
I’ve had no issues with the existing bike and it’s still immaculate but the seeds been planted and I can’t decide what would best.


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To me the only thing you seem to be gaining is the warranty on the newer version of your bike - unless there are any toys extra that your current Bike doesn't have. So i'd say it sounds like you're paying 5.5K for a 3 year warranty, that money if set to one side should easily see your bike through the next 3 years and cover anything that might go wrong. Your current Bike has done the steep depreciation part and will continue to slowly decline the next 3 years - even with miles on it.

I'd stick with your current Bike, and wait until it's a different change to a new Bike (the 1300) rather than a slightly newer version of what you have already and paying 6K for it, which you'll lose in depreciation anyway.
 
Just an alternative view, how about keeping the current bike for the long term. It's a great bike and £5k will pay to keep it maintained for quite a while. Its also a nice feeling keeping a bike for a long time and putting some serious miles on it.
 
I thought about the 1300 and decided to get a new Gs Ultimate, hope as it was a limited run it would hold its value longer as only 2500 bikes were made . As for the 1300 , not seen it yet and it could be a big change and maybe not a looker in the sense of the classic GS look and could be another jelly mould type modern marketing style. Hope not as the spy shots have not really inspired me yet , also as others have said , let it be tested first . I learnt this when I had the first WC and had loads of issues.
 
MikeS said:
Just an alternative view, how about keeping the current bike for the long term. It's a great bike and £5k will pay to keep it maintained for quite a while. Its also a nice feeling keeping a bike for a long time and putting some serious miles on it.
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I'm on this boat. I rarely have the 1200 LC "flat out" - it has enough power at 125bhp - it's not a sports bike (and neither is the 1300) even tho it can get a wiggle on, I'm not trying to shave 3 seconds off a lap off on a track day on my GS....
It's really the comfort and the torque i like of a big capacity engine, loads of pull in almost any gear, making overtaking - or catapulting out of a corner - effortless. Making long days in the saddle easy. Recent Euro tours of 3,500 miles (in 14 days) and 4,700 miles (in 22 days) were a cinch.
I won't be swapping for "more of the same" because it doesn't need it, if I swap it will be to go another (non-GS) route I think (new Tiger 1200 or new V100 Stelvio)
In the meantime I'll spend my "upgrade money" on bigger better adventures/experiences on my existing bike

I'll also be going with 3rd party maintenance because my local Motorrad dealer is appalling, not so much to save money, but to get a better service, and more confidence that the servicing jobs are done correctly...

I'm very keen to step off Motorrad's merry-go-round of creating the emperor's new clothes, and the poor customer service
 
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MartinK said:
I'm on this boat. I rarely have the 1200 LC "flat out" - it has enough power at 125bhp - it's not a sports bike (and neither is the 1300) even tho it can get a wiggle on, I'm not trying to shave 3 seconds off a lap off on a track day on my GS....
It's really the comfort and the torque i like of a big capacity engine, loads of pull in almost any gear, making overtaking - or catapulting out of a corner - effortless. Making long days in the saddle easy. Recent Euro tours of 3,500 miles (in 14 days) and 4,700 miles (in 22 days) were a cinch.
I won't be swapping for "more of the same" because it doesn't need it, if I swap it will be to go another (non-GS) route I think (new Tiger 1200 or new V100 Stelvio)
In the meantime I'll spend my "upgrade money" on bigger better adventures/experiences on my existing bike

I'll also be going with 3rd party maintenance because my local Motorrad dealer is appalling, not so much to save money, but to get a better service, and more confidence that the servicing jobs are done correctly...

I'm very keen to step off Motorrad's merry-go-round of creating the emperor's new clothes, and the poor customer service
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I'm with you on this one.

I've got a 1200lc gsa and a 1250gs. I was planning moving the two on and then taking out a new 1300. Having given it more thought i've decided against it as i'm perfectly happy with what i've got.
- I've spent a fortune in getting the bikes just how i want
- the 1250 has a smoother engine and more power but for my use the 1200 has more than enough power. The new 1300 wont add anything power wise that i need
- both are in excellent nick

I'll soak up repair costs out of not being on the merry go round like you until i think its taking the p*ss and if that's the case move back to Japanese stuff. Each to their own and if people want to change every 3 years or so then good luck and go for it.
On the OP if i fancied a new bike i'd go with the GSA offer while any gremlins are ironed out with the new 1300. I've had gremlins on both the 1200 and 1250 which were both sorted under warranty and have been fine ever since.
 
My GS is 3 years old in May and if it were possible I think I’d rather chop it in for a new 1250 than the 1300 whilst it’s still in its customer testing phase.
5500 to change sounds like a great deal to me. Can I ask how many miles you have on your 19 bike?
Also, £2000 for 3 yr warranty? Is that really what it costs?
 
I traded my old Hex GSA in with cash for my 1250GSA HP. Whilst the new bike is smoother, more powerful and has more features, my old bike was fine and easy to fix.

I kinda wish I had kept my old bike instead of getting back into the dealer-servicing/God help you if it goes wrong out of warranty method of pricing/ownership.
 
DJ123 said:
To me the only thing you seem to be gaining is the warranty on the newer version of your bike - unless there are any toys extra that your current Bike doesn't have. So i'd say it sounds like you're paying 5.5K for a 3 year warranty, that money if set to one side should easily see your bike through the next 3 years and cover anything that might go wrong. Your current Bike has done the steep depreciation part and will continue to slowly decline the next 3 years - even with miles on it.

I'd stick with your current Bike, and wait until it's a different change to a new Bike (the 1300) rather than a slightly newer version of what you have already and paying 6K for it, which you'll lose in depreciation anyway.
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There is nothing wrong with the 1250 engine. The others are playing the BHP game and BMW feels the need to join in...oh dear!

Q. How to get more BHPs? A. More revs.

Q. And where does all the extra air under the pistons go (when they go in and out at the same time)? A. Dry-sump the engine and get lots of the oil out of the crankcase where it can be worked into a lather.

BMW's challenge is to get the extra revs without sacrificing the significant torque advantage over the competition.

Let's see how they do, but hopefully the new unit will be more powerful whilst also being equally as usable as "road" engine.

Here am I thinking of the new Triumph Speed Triple RS, where (I hear) the motor is more powerful but not as nice in everyday use.
 
beemerboy9 said:
There is nothing wrong with the 1250 engine. The others are playing the BHP game and BMW feels the need to join in...oh dear!

Q. How to get more BHPs? A. More revs.

Q. And where does all the extra air under the pistons go (when they go in and out at the same time)? A. Dry-sump the engine and get lots of the oil out of the crankcase where it can be worked into a lather.

BMW's challenge is to get the extra revs without sacrificing the significant torque advantage over the competition.

Let's see how they do, but hopefully the new unit will be more powerful whilst also being equally as usable as "road" engine.

Here am I thinking of the new Triumph Speed Triple RS, where (I hear) the motor is more powerful but not as nice in everyday use.
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I could say the same about the new Tiger 1200 engine.
 
beemerboy9 said:
Here am I thinking of the new Triumph Speed Triple RS, where (I hear) the motor is more powerful but not as nice in everyday use.
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I bought one of the Speed Triples when they came out - had it 9 months and had to get rid of it. Was the most boring bike I've ridden despite what the specs were. Swapped it for a Tuono V4 (amazing bike) and now have a 1250GS.

I'm no GP rider but the GS does everything I need it to, at a very similar pace on the road and with more comfort. I don't miss the extra 40hp of the V4 (but the sound isn't anywhere near as good!) so I'm hanging on to my GS for a few more years.
 
FoxCorp said:
I bought one of the Speed Triples when they came out - had it 9 months and had to get rid of it. Was the most boring bike I've ridden despite what the specs were. Swapped it for a Tuono V4 (amazing bike) and now have a 1250GS.

I'm no GP rider but the GS does everything I need it to, at a very similar pace on the road and with more comfort. I don't miss the extra 40hp of the V4 (but the sound isn't anywhere near as good!) so I'm hanging on to my GS for a few more years.
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I was listening to a pod cast, the latest one - "Front End Chatter", one of the presenters had been to Munich and although BMW wouldn't divulge what was on the new GS, they discussed various tech upgrades. Apparently they we talking about more assisted braking (radar), suspension that can actually change spring rates on the fly and also they were not going to ship lower chassis bikes anymore, so have developed a system where the bike is lower when your stopped. So guess like the Harley system. So don't think it's all about just the 1300 engine.
 
These decisions are complex but in my view, it helps if you recognise what is driving your thinking process..... is it.......

1. Financial outlay over time
2. Protection against mechanical failure
3. Enjoyment riding the next step up in tech and handling.

Forget the naysayers fretting over the reliability of the next best iteration, ie 1300, as BMW will support the bike and owners.....as long as you have the time to deal with issues.

The depreciation impact of the new 1300 on the 1250 is, in some ways, a non-issue as the current massive discounting on unregistered 1250's has already bombed residuals.

For me, minimal financial outlay is attractive. Also, the boxer engine gets better as the miles increase.....my current 1250 @ 15000 miles is just run in and remains a fun bike.

But I have a deposit on the 1300, lol.
 
B11RGER said:
its a no brainer in my eyes, 3 years extended warranty on your existing bike would probably be in the range of £2,000, service, pads and tyres would be another £600+, so realisticly £3,000 to change . Always better to hold on a year at least when a new version comes out...
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I have just been online for a warranty quote, my bike 2019 GSA Rallye HP, £381 a year! so quite away off £2,000
 
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