New hard disk not recognised

[guitarman]

Having filled up my original 20GB disk I thought I'd add another 120GB disk.

I've installed a Maxtor disk but the PC doesn't recognise it's existence.

What I did is this -

Switched off the PC at the mains

Set the Maxtor jumper to "Slave" (actually no jumper at all according to the diagram on the disk)

Installed the disk in a spare drive bay and attached the spare IDE connector from the primary IDE channel (that the original drive is connected to) and the spare power supply.

Powered the PC back on expecting it to detect the disk but it didn't. I then tried to ADD NEW HARDWARE from Control Panel. Still didn't appear to find the disk.

I'm on 98SE. There's already the original hard drive, a DVD/CD reader and a CD writer so as far as I can see there should be another slave allowed.

I reckon it might be the slave/master jumper position but what should it be set to. There are 3 positions shown on the drive Pos 1 - DS (master); pos 2 CS enabled and pos 3 - CS

Any ideas???

Cheers

Dick

 

[Steve]

Could depend on the original disk. If that is set to CS (cable select) rather than Master, I think the second disk won't be recognised as a slave.

Try changing the new drive to CS.

 

[guitarman]

Thanks Steve, but I think the original drive has to be set to master or it wouldn't work so I'm not sure that's the problem.

I've done a bit more investigation and the system information (from Accessories) is showing the drive

GENERIC IDE DISK TYPE46
Original Configuration Wed Aug 02 22:50:59 2000 to Date
Alloc resources: None

GENERIC IDE DISK TYPE47
Original Configuration Sun Sep 12 17:15:52 2004 to Date
Alloc resources: None

Norton Systemworks tells me it's there as well but I can't find any way of mapping to the drive. "Add new hardware" is not picking it up as a new drive.

Now what do I do?

Cheers

Dick

 

[cookie]

you need to format it.

either boot from windows cd & follow instructions or use partition magic to do it (simpler).

DO NOT FORMAT YOUR OLD "C" PARTITION BY MISTAKE

ps. hope old drive is not full of dodgy dowloaded mp3's

 

[guitarman]

Thanks Cookie.

What's partition magic and where do I get it from???

Cheers

Dick

 

[guitarman]

MP3's ? with two teenage daughters it's difficult to avoid them

Cheers

Dick

 

[cookie]

What's partition magic and where do I get it from???

pc world or download from some disreputable source. not really worth £50 for 1 job. using windows disc is not too hard but is done before pc loads windows.

possible to format wrong drive if you're not careful. actually you can remove old drive, format new then replace old drive if you want to be very careful. don't forget to reset jumpers as necessary.

also maxtor may have the prog you need on their site, i'll look.
presumably you have bare OEM disc with no box or software?

 

[cookie]

look wot i just found

 

[guitarman]

Damn, it's a Windows 2000 answer and I'm still on 98 so I don't have the option to "Manage" My Computer. Looks like I'll have to try the Windows boot disk option as I don't want to pay £50 for a one off install.

Cheers

Dick

 

[cookie]

for some reason i thought you were using XP.

with 98 you can boot from cd or win98 boot floppy (made by windows but can't remember how with 98. see Help.)

just thought, booting from floppy or cd may require change of boot order in BIOS. things are never simple are they?

 

[cookie]

more 98 related stuff on maxtor site.

 

[guitarman]

more 98 related stuff on maxtor site.

Just found it as well and about to try it!!!!



Cheers

Dick

 

[guitarman]

Maxblast is a blast. Disk is now set up with 3 partitions.

Ain't it wonderful when stuff does what it says on the box?

Thanks for the links Cookie.

Cheers

Dick

 

[Fanum]

Funnily enough I spent a large amount of today solving the same prob for Dani on a new drive.....she sent it to a shop and they fekked it up .

Dick, the drives also need to be in the right positions on the IDE cable......the master needs to be at the end of it and the slave in the middle position.


PS you may well have to set the jumpers on the master to something different.....some drives have positions for Master stand alone and master with slave.....

PLus write down the serial /model numbers of the new drive and the number of heads, sectors and size of it from the label on it...then when you boot up, push DEL (usually, may be different dependin on your bios ) and make sure the BIOS is correctly identifying the new drive.

Erm.....it's been a while but I believe there is a patch for win 98 that you might well need as well......a lot of the older OS's won't see anything over a certain size because back then (and it's centuries ago in PC terms
) they couldn't concieve of and didn't programme for really big drives.........chuck a search in Google for something like 'maximum HD size win98' and you should find some info.

If none of that or the previous posts help, let us know and we'll see what else we can come up with

 

[trev]

new hard disc

http://www.seagate.com/support/ got to this site & download disc wizard. ensure that as mentioned previously you have master slave configuration correct on ide lead then run disc wizard
Best of luck Trev

 

[guitarman]

Funnily enough I spent a large amount of today solving the same prob for Dani on a new drive.....she sent it to a shop and they fekked it up .

Dick, the drives also need to be in the right positions on the IDE cable......the master needs to be at the end of it and the slave in the middle position.


PS you may well have to set the jumpers on the master to something different.....some drives have positions for Master stand alone and master with slave.....

PLus write down the serial /model numbers of the new drive and the number of heads, sectors and size of it from the label on it...then when you boot up, push DEL (usually, may be different dependin on your bios ) and make sure the BIOS is correctly identifying the new drive.

Erm.....it's been a while but I believe there is a patch for win 98 that you might well need as well......a lot of the older OS's won't see anything over a certain size because back then (and it's centuries ago in PC terms
) they couldn't concieve of and didn't programme for really big drives.........chuck a search in Google for something like 'maximum HD size win98' and you should find some info.

If none of that or the previous posts help, let us know and we'll see what else we can come up with

Fanum, thanks mate but the software from Maxtor worked a treat. Sorted out the BIOS and everything. Full size recognised etc....

If you're installing a Maxtor disk in future then use Maxblast - it really works

Cheers

Dick

 

[cookie]

never used manufacturers utilities before but it sounds like the easy option.

i have to install a 120GB drive for someone this week & i'll be checking out the Western Digital site for their version

 

[cookie]

WD do not seem to have such a utility on their site.

i love partition magic though