New stribe does it work and last

[karisa60]

Hi folkes,

having GS with ZFE Basic high and broken stribe entering to BMW world I am in the middle of change the system. This is why I have ordered potentimeter assemply and second hand ZFE High full trying to fit them in my bike.
But while waiting for parts would like to know from you who have invested on the new 2021/2022 stribe has it lasted and worked without a problem and if way or the other hoe long?

With winterly greetings from finland
Kari

 

[botus]

what is a stribe ?

 

[glenn2926]

what is a stribe ?

I was going to ask the same question. I’m guessing it’s a Finnish word for something.

 

[karisa60]

what is a stribe ?

Sorry my english and misspelling should be strip more closely fuel strip.

 

[botus]

just buy the Argentinian fuel strip that's been made properly - if you're trying to retrofit a twin socket ZFE to a single socket bike there will be lots of repining and coding - in some utter madness, they mixed and matched lots of functions across the double pin one - rather than just having cruise, heated seat, and ESA functions on the second socket like it needed

in the German world - if there's a sensible, more cost effective, simpler, better solution to any process or function, you can rest assured they'll do the exact opposite. Whilst getting it wrong, confusing themselves till we need 6 software updates over 5 years to get it to almost function, and of course make it even more unreliable - you have to undo 60 bolts to get the petrol tank off a GSA LC - Suzuki spend years making better bikes using just the 1 it needs

ever heard of SAP ? the most incompetent and buggy software package for accountancy - the idea is so the auditors can't follow the senior managers criminality as they destroy corporations across the world, as they pocket all the money - it works great for that

Fuel Sensor Tech / Fuel Strip for BMW bikes

We had developed an alternative fuel sensor for BMW motorbikes. This sensor may be used in several models of the Germany Brand as r1200gs/adventure k1200s/rt/gt an more. Visit Fuel Sensor Tech

www.fuelsensortech.com

 

[Slipperyeel]

just buy the Argentinian fuel strip that's been made properly - if you're trying to retrofit a twin socket ZFE to a single socket bike there will be lots of repining and coding - in some utter madness, they mixed and matched lots of functions across the double pin one - rather than just having cruise, heated seat, and ESA functions on the second socket like it needed

in the German world - if there's a sensible, more cost effective, simpler, better solution to any process or function, you can rest assured they'll do the exact opposite. Whilst getting it wrong, confusing themselves till we need 6 software updates over 5 years to get it to almost function, and of course make it even more unreliable - you have to undo 60 bolts to get the petrol tank off a GSA LC - Suzuki spend years making better bikes using just the 1 it needs

ever heard of SAP ? the most incompetent and buggy software package for accountancy - the idea is so the auditors can't follow the senior managers criminality as they destroy corporations across the world, as they pocket all the money - it works great for that

Fuel Sensor Tech / Fuel Strip for BMW bikes

We had developed an alternative fuel sensor for BMW motorbikes. This sensor may be used in several models of the Germany Brand as r1200gs/adventure k1200s/rt/gt an more. Visit Fuel Sensor Tech

www.fuelsensortech.com

Your last paragraph is bang on

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[karisa60]

just buy the Argentinian fuel strip that's been made properly - if you're trying to retrofit a twin socket ZFE to a single socket bike there will be lots of repining and coding - in some utter madness, they mixed and matched lots of functions across the double pin one - rather than just having cruise, heated seat, and ESA functions on the second socket like it needed

in the German world - if there's a sensible, more cost effective, simpler, better solution to any process or function, you can rest assured they'll do the exact opposite. Whilst getting it wrong, confusing themselves till we need 6 software updates over 5 years to get it to almost function, and of course make it even more unreliable - you have to undo 60 bolts to get the petrol tank off a GSA LC - Suzuki spend years making better bikes using just the 1 it needs

ever heard of SAP ? the most incompetent and buggy software package for accountancy - the idea is so the auditors can't follow the senior managers criminality as they destroy corporations across the world, as they pocket all the money - it works great for that

Fuel Sensor Tech / Fuel Strip for BMW bikes

We had developed an alternative fuel sensor for BMW motorbikes. This sensor may be used in several models of the Germany Brand as r1200gs/adventure k1200s/rt/gt an more. Visit Fuel Sensor Tech

www.fuelsensortech.com

Hi, hate to give up but obviously you have studied this so deep that it is impossible to make the High full to operate in basic high ZFE.
I am just curious to find out things and hate to pay something that does not last long enough for its price. Anyway, have something to fight against and spend these long winter days finding answers.

Have you studied the ZFEs inside?

I am now looking for electric schematics for for different ZFE can you help with this?

How many strip from fuelsensortech have you installed and how long have they worked shortest and longest?

And yes, I have been forced to SAP in the past and it is just like you wrote. It was like your left foot did opposite of your right one with different areas of the application.

 

[botus]

I haven't done the strip but thousands of happy customers have - I went the other route using the float and the probeemer box to adapt the float signals to equiv of a strip - but you get issues with miss reading when doing the simple old school mount on the pump flange - later ones mounted it to a bracket off the fuel filler - on the GSA with a ZFE high it takes side-stand position info and tell the bike not to get upset with the massive forces applied to the float when it leant over. Also the probeemer device ages badly and has a melt down misbehaving.

I will go down the aftermarket strip one day - they were always a more accurate way to tell the gauge how to behave - hence why they used it

I don't have the full pin-outs - just the bit is some guides as the float idea reused other pins on J1 socket (which is the only one you get on the lesser ZFEs)

 

[karisa60]

Thanks for the answer. Will keep on studying this and if any success return with the out come. Maybe building a converter or trying zfe basic low.

 

[DrFarkoff]

@karisa60

Why bother when someone has done it for you?

With Onboard computer LINKY

Without onboard computer LINKY

 

[karisa60]

@karisa60

Why bother when someone has done it for you?

With Onboard computer LINKY

Without onboard computer LINKY

So I have been told. After I have been on the final frontier I propably by that spanish part.
But now it is midd winter too cold for me to drive so need challenges to keep my brains from melting in alzheimer. Have red that using brains helps avoiding dementia.

 

[karisa60]

Today, after zapping my strip and removing fault codes I coded to potentimeter and heating deactivation my cluster started to show Three bars in the display. It is not accurate I presume but have to fuel it upp and see what happens. What I could test was that when the fuel was taken off the tank the meter started to count down allso.
The bike is 2008 and ZFE should be basic high according to BMW , Motoscan showed only basic and the year of ZFE was 2004 when all the other units were 2008. So I susspect that the zfe has been changed to basic low cause when activate the BC iI dont get any readings wich could allso be caused by the missing strip.
Does anyone know if motoscan shows exactly if ZFE is basic low or basic high, high or high full.
The bike allso had what I think to be three different downloads of programs on it.
I'll take my tablet with me tomorrow so I can take pictures about the things I want to get info about.
Any comments welcomed.

 

[botus]

years back (7+ or so years) motoscan used to give the software part number - which was super helpful - I don't know why but it was removed

even the GS911 makes up info on the module's part numbering and dates - it has ZERO relationship to the build date of the bike or the specific module part the bike has - it seems to reference a module BMW made that had the same functionality


for example
on one they call it a basic - when its a basic high in my 2007 bike
and my Jan 2011 built GSA - I had a special order for the current part number alarm module in 2023 and the GS911 says its a 2006 part with a 2006 part number - which it isn't - and a 2004 year date for a ZFE that wasn't in existence back then either - its real part number - was only about from 2010

 

[karisa60]

Interesting.
Everything I have read across the planets bmw sites tells about the conversion that can be done to others than ZFE basic high bikes allthough the accuracy is varying some good some bad none accurate but acceptable.
So new question arised why is my bike showing fuel amount with float. Maybe that stays unsolved but studying still.

Does any one know if the info which is showed in motoscan is explained somewhere?

If the bike wasnt so much fun to drive I would return to the japs wich I had since 1980.
I will go to dealer service and ask for elekctric schematics and some other info appealing to eu -law in wich it is said that the manufacturer must give the same information, that they give to dealer services of the product, to independent operator. The price has to be reasonable.
Today I'll take the step one, the dealer.
To be seen if Must contact to the importer and finally BMW Berlin and EU- court.

 

[botus]

before data transfer down a wire (now glass) was easy and reliable - all dealerships cars and bikes, all brands - would get large amounts of data via CDs or DVDs

there is a BMW CD I don't have which is the electrical drawings (I guess hidden on the internet its somewhere for free) people used to sell the stuff illegally, before that dealers would sell it - but I believe long since obsolete.

there's also the painting by numbers CD for pre 2015 bikes that still works. it lists how to break your bike, the fluid levels, torque settings, and what mods came out when... I just discovered 2 months after my 2011 bike was made and retrofittable all the way back to the 2006 ABS II bikes - they made a better bracket for the rear ABS wire, to better protect and stop it chaffing on the rear disc bolts.... should cost all of 10p and 1 min to fit - so of course they never bothered when servicing people bikes - even when in warranty

people don't understand - the reason bit like that bracket and software updates are never applied - they want recalcitrant, unreliable junk out there - they only wish to shift the ever reducing quality rubbish coming off the end of the production line - nothing else matters

not sure how you are getting a level reading, did u re pin for the float ? and do you have the trip computer? note ave speed and ave consumption work without needing a float or strip - info and calcs comes from other sources

totally agree with your comment about jap bikes - same here

 

[botus]

I guess there were later ones - BMW 01797720399, Cd SLP 2.2 Wiring Diagram,

oh dear look what I found https://www.k-bikes.com/threads/k1200s-wiring-diagram-needed.46031/page-2 seems there's a google doc link no one wanted

dam perfect - except no drawings come up ? there is a larger file with the SLP 1.2 to download in the same thread

 

[botus]

so in those two Cd's there is a graphics folder - in v 2.2 there's only 8 wiring drawings - of which there's only one extra that is missing from the hundreds contained in the earlier v 1.2

if you keep the extra drawing and replace ALL the other drawings from the 1.2 download - into v 2.2 it does what it was meant too - oddly I guess before the days of scrambled madness we get in modern software - you can also copy over the missing folder 18, its corresponding PrxTxt18.dat file, and .ds file and 1.2 morphs in to v 2.2 even renaming itself as v 2.2 which is very peculiar.....

 

[karisa60]

Update. Tested today. Added tank totally full and the cluster showed full tank. Then put extra hose in tank and made the fuel flow out with gravity "thing" and look the cluster showed the fuel amount to decrease. Now have to wait 2 months to get test ride to see how accurate it is.
Also was in contact with the previous owner he said that this was the third strip that went nuts.
Visited to dealer and no the cant give me the schematics and they cant even print it out from computer(wich I dont believe).
Next have to be in contact to finnish importer of bmw motorcycles and ask them for the schematics if that doesnt come out positive then Berlin and after that EU court if the meanwhile have to study if the law applies to motorcycles as I presume cause remember from earlier incident with canadian quad and finnish impoter there.

 

[karisa60]

Only thing which bothers me is, I cant understand or know why , in my case, the metering with float works allthough my bike has all the units wich have been said not working in conversion. The question is what did I do more or different from the others to make it work. Must studye more to find that out.

 

[karisa60]

My bike is 8/2008 so have to keep searching for diagrams 2008 and up.
Thank you anyway for sharing your findings.
Now must take few pints to clear my own central unit.