New tft screen

[smudger64]

The concept will roll out to all TFT screens eventually

If your bike can take the big screen, that's what you'll get, if it can only take a smaller screen, you'll get screen switching or sized to suit

End of the Nav units as we know them

Think that spot on. What’s the point of having another device when your phone can do it all.
Would also expect apple and google car play too. Surprised that’s not on the the new RT now.

 

[RallyeGS]

Is epic, the same as awesome but just one stage above?

Na, its one below incredible and one above fantastic. Awesome is some away above all three.

 

[Matty589]

Another important point is that BMW wont have to rely on/pay money to Garmin anymore to make the “BMW navigator”. Licensing map/traffic data/speed camera use is likely to cost far less.

 

[Deleted account 210609001]

The Connected App uses maps downloaded and stored on your phone. So not having a connection won’t make any difference.
It does use a connection to supply traffic info (from TomTom), but that’s all you’d lose. For some strange reason though it does supply the TomTom camera data base, which is a significant issue, for me at least.

Err no, it does not require a data connection. As said the maps are on the phone. That has been said a few times before, so why would you say that it does?
If you want to use data in the EU then perhaps brexit was not such a good idea. If you have a £10 per month Smarty sim in your phone then you can have 20Gb of data in the EU as part of the package, not that you need it for the BMW app as it still does not use data.

I know the maps are downloaded onto the phone. (Coincidentally, my phone is downloading updates beside me right now.)

However, for the phone to know where it is on the downloaded map, surely it needs a connection? If I've got this wrong, can you please explain how your phone knows where you are if there's no network connection available.

 

[smudger64]

I know the maps are downloaded onto the phone. (Coincidentally, my phone is downloading updates beside me right now.)

However, for the phone to know where it is on the downloaded map, surely it needs a connection? If I've got this wrong, can you please explain how your phone knows where you are if there's no network connection available.

GPS. You’re not downloading any data using it either.

 

[BobT]

Think that spot on. What’s the point of having another device when your phone can do it all.
Would also expect apple and google car play too. Surprised that’s not on the the new RT now.

Totally agree with the first part, there is no longer a need for a GPS unit on the bike.
The second part is a bit dodgy, involving anything Apple will mean a cost and why change something that is working for the vast majority of people?

 

[BobT]

I know the maps are downloaded onto the phone. (Coincidentally, my phone is downloading updates beside me right now.)

However, for the phone to know where it is on the downloaded map, surely it needs a connection? If I've got this wrong, can you please explain how your phone knows where you are if there's no network connection available.

As smudger64 said, you don't use data to operate the GPS on your phone, if you did then every Nav 6 would need a data plan in it. The GPS chip in your phone is probably much more powerful than the one in a Nav 6.

 

[RallyeGS]

The downside with using a phone alone is that they struggle in the heat/direct sunlight. Multitasking of apps and running the GPS chip set gets things rather warm too. Too much and they close down until cool enough to operate once more.

 

[casbar]

The downside with using a phone alone is that they struggle in the heat/direct sunlight. Multitasking of apps and running the GPS chip set gets things rather warm too. Too much and they close down until cool enough to operate once more.

That might be why the phone pocket on the RT has a cooling fan for the phone then

 

[RallyeGS]

That might be why the phone pocket on the RT has a cooling fan for the phone then

Good shout, unfortunately the beloved GS has no such compartment!

 

[Mucky Helmet]

That might be why the phone pocket on the RT has a cooling fan for the phone then

More likely because of the wireless charging as they can run quite hot.

 

[RallyeGS]

Perhaps both!

 

[smudger64]

Good shout, unfortunately the beloved GS has no such compartment!

No, but I’ve been running mine on a wireless mount, where the nav mount was. Same set up in the car too. In both cases I run the TomTom app plus the bbc player and don’t have an issue with overheating.

Having said that of all the navigation apps out there TomTom does a known issue of running very hot on some iPhones, causing them to shut down. Mine is an XL and so far it’s not happened and that includes a stint in the south of France.

 

[RallyeGS]

I’ve had my phone shut down in the car and on the bike. The bike was in Spain with the sun behind me for some time. Some message about being too hot to work and that was it for 45 mins! As I say I use both, the phone has better functionality, but can’t be operated effectively in gloved hands. Even gloves with conductive tips are clumsy. I think both options have positives and negatives.

 

[yofi]

The concept will roll out to all TFT screens eventually

If your bike can take the big screen, that's what you'll get, if it can only take a smaller screen, you'll get screen switching or sized to suit

End of the Nav units as we know them

Agree. They'll perhaps use the same real estate but move the speed and revs up and to one side in a map view.

 

[RallyeGS]

Like a few on here no doubt, I am beta testing the BMW Connected App. The direction of travel seems to be towards TFT and phone+app as the preferred nav option.

 

[smudger64]

Like a few on here no doubt, I am beta testing the BMW Connected App. The direction of travel seems to be towards TFT and phone+app as the preferred nav option.

How did you get on that?

Does it have cameras by any chance?

 

[Deleted account 210609001]

GPS. You’re not downloading any data using it either.

As smudger64 said, you don't use data to operate the GPS on your phone, if you did then every Nav 6 would need a data plan in it. The GPS chip in your phone is probably much more powerful than the one in a Nav 6.

Thanks. I didn't realise phones had GPS working from satellites - I thought they just computed your position based on relative position to mobile phone masts! I thought that was the fundamental difference between Sat Nav units and mobile phones.

 

[BobT]

Like a few on here no doubt, I am beta testing the BMW Connected App. The direction of travel seems to be towards TFT and phone+app as the preferred nav option.

Me too. Love my weekly ride outs to check stuff.
No lockdown here either.

 

[stever1]

Totally agree with the first part, there is no longer a need for a GPS unit on the bike.
The second part is a bit dodgy, involving anything Apple will mean a cost and why change something that is working for the vast majority of people?

You can’t beat having built in satnav. As on a Goldwing