ELIMINATOR
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Rear shock, depending on spec. varies from £435 to £775, the "cheapest" has no remote oreload adjustment, top spec. One has a remote reserve of some sort. How much real difference isbthere between them all?
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Mr K
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The rear I bought for my 1200GS has the remote preload adjuster, so it's easy to adjust for different loads.
Wonderful after the gradual decline of the OE shock.
On the front I just have a regular one as it's sort of once it's set it's set kind of thing but you can still adjust damping and preload if you want to, you just need tools.
Wonderful after the gradual decline of the OE shock.
On the front I just have a regular one as it's sort of once it's set it's set kind of thing but you can still adjust damping and preload if you want to, you just need tools.
I think if you're going to be riding with a variety of solo/two up/luggage/no luggage then you'll want the remote pre load. As fir performance I couldn't say but any new shock is going to be better than a shagged old one! Even just the standard with a good service and maybe a new spring will be an improvement.
But buying something that can be serviced is, in my view, essential and you should get that with good brands.
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But buying something that can be serviced is, in my view, essential and you should get that with good brands.
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I saw the Hagon shocks at the bike show, I didn't realise they are made from stainless steel. No more corrosion problems and rebuildable. I don't know if they have a remote reservoir one though - I expect a major suspension outfit like them must have.
Anyone know anything about rebulding the original ones? Can they be refurbished?
Anyone know anything about rebulding the original ones? Can they be refurbished?
HPS , the Nitron importer/distributor are offering half price remote adjuster with every new shock at the moment. 
If you mean the original OEM shocks, yes? Contact All Bike Engineering in London (ABE) as they seem to be the only people who have the equipment capable of rebuilding the crimped front shock. KAIS refurbished my rear and I had new Hyperpro springs fitted to both shocks, all relatively low priced and a HUGE improvement over stock
.Mike.
I rarely carry a passenger so I went with rear shock with no preload adjuster. I would say that one of the biggest differences from OE is that you will have spring rate and damping set up for your requirements. I bought front and rear for my 1200 earlier this year and it feels a different bike even though the old shocks were only 3 years / 9000 miles old. I paid £770 for the pair but that included 10% off as they had a stand at Cassington bike night. I bought direct from Nitron, who are in Witney, Oxfordshire. Good guys, why pay more for Wlibers or Ohlins?
If you mean the original OEM shocks, yes? Contact All Bike Engineering in London (ABE) as they seem to be the only people who have the equipment capable of rebuilding the crimped front shock. KAIS refurbished my rear and I had new Hyperpro springs fitted to both shocks, all relatively low priced and a HUGE improvement over stock
Mike.
Thanks for that - I shall contact them and find out all about it.
ahutcheon
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The expensive one probably allows you to adjust compression and rebound damping separately, perhaps even with adjusters for high and low speed damping. I went for remote preload and a single (rebound, I think) damping adjustment. Reasoning being that I do sometimes turn up preload when carrying a passenger, and maybe a bit of damping, but that I'm happy going with the manufacturers experience to set the shock up right and that having lots of separate adjustments would mostly give me the opportunity to get it very wrong...
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Just bought four Nitron shocks for my Elise, they are real quality item and I believe, made in the UK.
hutchy
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Thought I would add some more details to the Nitron shock I have had fitted as a long term user now with a fault.
Fitted to a 2004 1150gsa.
24 months of use and 12k done on it.
1 up 70% of the time.
2 up with luggage 30%
Built to my spec and weight but I'm a stone heavier these days (porker)
Shock: Ntr Sport + with HPA
Without a shadow of a doubt it is a great shock and had made the ownership of my oil head brilliant in terms of handling.....However....
Dampning or Dampening has now left the building!!!
My chum (Betty Swollocks) gave it the bounce test, sadly it continued to bounce 3 or 4 times before levelling, it also made some squelching noise...not good
Handling had been pretty shite and squatting on acceleration, all the usual symptoms of a snagged shock.
Retrospectively I suppose I should have sent it away over the winter to have it serviced but it showed no issues so I cracked on.
Funny that is went with in a few miles of the 12k recommended servicing interval - sods law?
Spoke to nitron, a very helpful lot, down loaded their service request form and popped it all in the post this morning, well insured and via next day delivery, signed for!
Will post again on the service given by them etc etc.
Costs:
Full rebuild is £95
Postage back £12
New spring rate if needed £70
Plus VAT
H
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Fitted to a 2004 1150gsa.
24 months of use and 12k done on it.
1 up 70% of the time.
2 up with luggage 30%
Built to my spec and weight but I'm a stone heavier these days (porker)
Shock: Ntr Sport + with HPA
Without a shadow of a doubt it is a great shock and had made the ownership of my oil head brilliant in terms of handling.....However....
Dampning or Dampening has now left the building!!!
My chum (Betty Swollocks) gave it the bounce test, sadly it continued to bounce 3 or 4 times before levelling, it also made some squelching noise...not good
Handling had been pretty shite and squatting on acceleration, all the usual symptoms of a snagged shock.
Retrospectively I suppose I should have sent it away over the winter to have it serviced but it showed no issues so I cracked on.
Funny that is went with in a few miles of the 12k recommended servicing interval - sods law?
Spoke to nitron, a very helpful lot, down loaded their service request form and popped it all in the post this morning, well insured and via next day delivery, signed for!
Will post again on the service given by them etc etc.
Costs:
Full rebuild is £95
Postage back £12
New spring rate if needed £70
Plus VAT
H
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Have to say I wouldn't be happy it's gone so soon. They may be good shocks, but I'm getting the sense they're far from totally reliable. There was a guy on the Bird forum that had one blow, nearly had him off, and another more recently on the vfr site, he ended up stuck in Italy iirc.
hutchy
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I agree with you somewhat but it does state in the service guide for it to be serviced at 12 - 18k, mine had done that. So with that knowledge I disagree with your reliability opinion.
We have to remember to that these aren't sealed units like stock ones and are fully serviceable and rebuildable, for me that's a huge bonus and a must.
Stock shocks while good aren't built for the individual owners again I prefer the nitron because it offers just that.
So its down to preference as to weather an owner wants great handling all of the time or handling that disappears over years of use, where few would even notice.
As for the chap who's shock failed, mine didn't give me any loss of control just a lack of damping, do you know the exact details of the incident and the milage on the shock?
As for the chap in Italy, what was his mileage as I'd be interested to know if there is a trend developing here?
Thanks
H
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We have to remember to that these aren't sealed units like stock ones and are fully serviceable and rebuildable, for me that's a huge bonus and a must.
Stock shocks while good aren't built for the individual owners again I prefer the nitron because it offers just that.
So its down to preference as to weather an owner wants great handling all of the time or handling that disappears over years of use, where few would even notice.
As for the chap who's shock failed, mine didn't give me any loss of control just a lack of damping, do you know the exact details of the incident and the milage on the shock?
As for the chap in Italy, what was his mileage as I'd be interested to know if there is a trend developing here?
Thanks
H
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hutchy
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Was it serviced prior to that?
Ie between 12 and 18k?
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Ie between 12 and 18k?
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I have a brand new Nitron for my 12GS which was a replacement for a unit that let go and spew oil all over the exhaust and my leg about 70 miles into Spain having got off the ferry in Bilbao.one of the o ring got pushed out, presumably due to the spirited riding one up with luggage.
It had a lot less than 12k on it.
Although I got my leg lifted by the BMW dealer in Pamplona, (to the tune of €500 for a second hand standard shock), I was able to continue my trip. On return I spoke to Nitron and they supplied anew and updated unit built with my spring on it.
I haven't yet got round to fitting it but might ahead of my Alps trip at the end of this the month-not sure yet!
Point is, the odd failure of other units may have been units of the older design. Things should now be significantly better.
It had a lot less than 12k on it.
Although I got my leg lifted by the BMW dealer in Pamplona, (to the tune of €500 for a second hand standard shock), I was able to continue my trip. On return I spoke to Nitron and they supplied anew and updated unit built with my spring on it.
I haven't yet got round to fitting it but might ahead of my Alps trip at the end of this the month-not sure yet!
Point is, the odd failure of other units may have been units of the older design. Things should now be significantly better.
hutchy
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Thanks Popell
I wonder if the bike being strapped down for 20 hours on a boat will have an effect on a shock??
It was something a chum on this forum put into my head this morning....
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I wonder if the bike being strapped down for 20 hours on a boat will have an effect on a shock??
It was something a chum on this forum put into my head this morning....
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I know 2 Triumph Explorer riders who got off Ferry from Belfast to Scotland 3 weeks ago and both had leaking front forks after bikes were secured with suspension compressed.
All shocks can fail, Wilbers, Ohlins etc etc.
Nitron shocks are as good as any of the rest and their service has been very good in my experience. Mine are still A1 but then they have only been on a year and haven't done more than 6k miles.
Strapping a bike down doesn't do the suspension any good imho, but I always use the chunnel no so not a concern for me.
Nitron shocks are as good as any of the rest and their service has been very good in my experience. Mine are still A1 but then they have only been on a year and haven't done more than 6k miles.
Strapping a bike down doesn't do the suspension any good imho, but I always use the chunnel no so not a concern for me.
Interesting theory? What's the option to compressing it?, can we leave it a little loose- serious question as I'm on the, albeit shorter, Dover Calais on the 24th?.
I don't recall if they strap it down or leave it to you to do??
I don't recall if they strap it down or leave it to you to do??
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