Nw garage/workshop

Paul Rochdale

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I've just experienced one of the most mentally and physically demanding weeks for years. It's like this. I've always hankered after a large timber garage/workshop like those infernal yanks have. In the UK, we are used to tiny garages, if we are lucky enough to have one. Cosy, warm and snug, just the place for my kitcar and three motorbikes. Years ago I received a small inheritance and put this sum aside for the day when I finally took the plunge and bought one. I had been quoted £3500 for a made-to-measure timber garage although I had to lay the concrete slab. As the piece of land I had mentally set aside for it is on a slope, it would need foundations to to prevent it sliding down the hill we live on, and into the River Medway.

A few weeks ago, whilst browsing on eBay, I came across the garage (we say 'garidge' in the South). It was in timber with a pair of double doors, and at 6m square seemed to fit the bill. Any problems? Well, it was still standing so needed to be dismantled, and, err....it was in Lancashire, 250 miles away. Well I bit the bullet and put in a high bid and won it. I owned a 6m x 6m garage and had to find a way to bring it back to Kent.

I contacted a few firms who rented trucks, not really knowing what size truck I either needed nor could drive on my licence. Edward had just passed his HGV test in the RAF so whatever we could find, one of us would be legal. Very few firms would entertain renting to a private individual but one local firm did agree. From the dimensions it would seem the largest pieces would measure 3m x 2.4m but the steel A-frame which supported the pitched roof would be 6m long. I chose a 7.5 ton Iveco truck with solid sides (as opposed to 'curtain sides') and I could have one for £254 for the two days I thought it would take to recover the garage. One hire firm filled me with foreboding about O-licences, wide loads, Police escorts, etc, which turned out to be pure BS. Edward who would be coming with me would not be allowed to drive the truck as their insurance company would not cover anyone who hadn't held a licence for that class of vehicle for at least a year.

On Thursday evening I collected the truck - my, I'd never driven anything that size before and even when in the Army, I only drove Bedford 3-tonners. It actually drove like a big car and 1st and 2nd gears were almost unneccessary, they were that low.

3am Friday morning I set off in the emerging light and collected a sleepy Edward in Maidstone. Governed at 56mph, as all UK goods vehicles now are, we made steady but slow progress up the M1 and M6 towards Lancashire arriving in this very isolated village at 9.30am. The garage looked massive and I really wondered what on earth we'd taken on. The entire insides were covered in chipboard panels, nailed over the timber, and all of these had to be crowbared off to get to the panel retaining bolts. We worked like slaves removing the roof panels, the very heavy steel A-frame and the wall panels. There was a hitch when the entire front wall fell over, gouging a chunk out of the newly rendered garage a couple of yards away. By 3.30pm we'd miraculously loaded up the entire garage including the mighty A-frame and we said our farewells and headed off back to Kent. At this rate, we'd be able to return the truck to the hire company and save on a days rental. A mile down the country lane, I got too close to the branches of overhanging trees and - BANG - the nearside wing mirror smashed and the nearside (electric) window no longer worked. Damn! We continued on our way, my pride very bruised. I really, really take it badly when I make a mistake when driving/riding. Got back at 9pm after 500 miles and seven hours of hard labour, in time to see the final episode of 'The Apprentice'.

Up next morning at 4am - it's now raining - and Edward, Heather and I begin to offload the dismantled garage. Wilting under the heavy weight of the panels, we offloaded everything by 6am, and I set off to return the truck by the 7.30am deadline. Fearing I'd lose hundreds of £ of my deposit, the guy noted the damage. "The wing mirror will cost about £20, they are always going. The window? It's probably an internal fault. A sign of old age". I almost feinted with relief. I returned home soaked in the perspiration caused by my waterproof coat to have a hot bath and catch up on my kip. What a few days it had been! I am now looking forward to getting my kitcar and three motorbikes under cover for the first time together.
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Those pics were taken by the seller and placed on eBay. It's currently neatly stacked on my drive waiting for me to lay the concrete base. I'll post some pics when there's more progress.

I'd like some advice re the foundations. I'm planning to dig a 12" wide x 18" deep trench in the form of a 6 metre square and fill this with concrete. Lay a single row of concrete blocks then infill with roadstone, blasting sand, DPM and more concrete. Does that sound about right?
 
Those pics were taken by the seller and placed on eBay. It's currently neatly stacked on my drive waiting for me to lay the concrete base. I'll post some pics when there's more progress.

I'd like some advice re the foundations. I'm planning to dig a 12" wide x 18" deep trench in the form of a 6 metre square and fill this with concrete. Lay a single row of concrete blocks then infill with roadstone, blasting sand, DPM and more concrete. Does that sound about right?

Thats about right, but you say something about a slope, is it on one or very near by?
 
Wayne

There's a gentle slope from front to back, I'd guess a 12" drop over a 6m length, otherwise I could make the concrete slab a simple shuttered 5" slab. Clearly I don't want to make the foundations any deeper than required - the foundations for an extension we built at the last house were a metre deep - so I though 18" a happy compromise. I've also thought of large slabs of polystyrene in the floor to prevent the floor acting as a heat sink, and perhaps 4" or 5" of concrete over that. Perhaps some Weldmesh within that to make it stonger?
 
Wayne

There's a gentle slope from front to back, I'd guess a 12" drop over a 6m length, otherwise I could make the concrete slab a simple shuttered 5" slab. Clearly I don't want to make the foundations any deeper than required - the foundations for an extension we built at the last house were a metre deep - so I though 18" a happy compromise. I've also thought of large slabs of polystyrene in the floor to prevent the floor acting as a heat sink, and perhaps 4" or 5" of concrete over that. Perhaps some Weldmesh within that to make it stonger?

Thats sounds about ok and good luck. Wayne:thumb
 
This sounds a fun project, have you thought about a DPC, well worth the effort. I put on down when building my garage, along with floor insulation (polystyrine). Now I can work away in the garage on winter night without my feet turning blue

Another thought, how about a pit, very useful when you play with your car. I highly recommend Mach-mate. which are plastic like a big deep bath, again very warm in the winter months and no condinsation, spiderwebs etc which you get with normal brick built pits.

Have fun
AJ
 
Have you checked out the boring stuff, like planning and building control?

I wonder if building control might not specify the type of foundations, but there again being a "temporary" building they might not be interested.

If you have a soft subsoil, which is possible close to a river, I'd be inclined to use reinforcing mesh in the slab, prop it up on bits of brick so it sits in the middle of the concrete - makes pouring the readymix in more awkward. You might want to drop Onahi a pm, he knows about this sort of thing, might even be able to point you in the right direction for the concrete!
 
Right, finished off the foundation trenches this afternoon and have been phoning around to get the price of concrete. It approximately needs 4 cubic metres and it seems to cost about £100 a cubic metre. (Jeez!) rather than go the ready-mix route where is arrives all mixed, I think I'll go for the 'arrives at your door and mixes it up' method, as that'll take the guesswork out of it.

Here are some pics -

http://s190.photobucket.com/albums/z312/Paul_Narramore/Building of the garage/

No building regs needed as it's going to be a temporary building. I shalln't bolt it to the slab as it weighs a ton and won't be going anywhere.
 
http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z312/Paul_Narramore/Building of the garage/Earage3.jpg

102 concrete blocks, five bags of cement and a ton of builders sand later, and it's starting to take shape. I'm going to level off the soil to the first level of mortar then lay down 3" of Type 1 Roadstone followed by steel mesh then 5" of concrete screed. Does that sound about right?

The concrete blocks were a bugger to lay as they were so heavy. I gradually made the mortar (1:3 mix as much of it will be below soil level) drier and drier as the blocks caused the wet mortar to squeeze out. I don't know what professional bricklayers do.
 
http://s190.photobucket.com/albums/z312/Paul_Narramore/Building of the garage/

Well it's just about finished. Last night in the darkness I was tacking the rest of the roofing felt down as rain was expected last night. Altogether she went up pretty well but it has proved to be a bit of a money pit. I spent £140 alone on roofing felt yesterday. The special Cuprinol Heritage Shades 'Somerset Green' was nearly £20 a tin and had to be specially ordered. I've still a little way to go - it needs to be wired up for power and lighting, I need to contruct a decent bench, and I have lots of old kitchen cupboards to be transferred from the old garage. I've discovered a special 2-pack garage floor paint which is far better than the B&Q/Homebase variety.

All this expense means that I've reluctantly decided against my forthcoming Morocco ride at the end of October so will ride the Benelux countries for a few days instead.
 
Glad to hear you've nearly finished,always more work and money than anticipated.I built a shed myself this summer-totally cleaned my wee piggy bank out,worth it in the end though.:thumb2
 
I'm almost at the point now when I have to install powerpoints and fluroescent lighting. Did you do yours yourself or employ an electrician? I know it should be relatively simple but I've been looking at garage consumer units on ebay, and fluorescent light fittings through various wholesalers. Whatever, I think I'll get the final effort checked out by an electrician then get him to connect the lot to the house mains board.
 
I'm almost at the point now when I have to install powerpoints and fluroescent lighting. Did you do yours yourself or employ an electrician? I know it should be relatively simple but I've been looking at garage consumer units on ebay, and fluorescent light fittings through various wholesalers. Whatever, I think I'll get the final effort checked out by an electrician then get him to connect the lot to the house mains board.

There is a sparky on here not far from you I believe - davegs in bromley, might be worth a PM to him to check you are not breaking the law, garages being domestic buildings and so subject to building control.
 
Some years ago I painted the garage floor with International Garage Floor Paint, and it was pretty rubbish stuff. Pick the bike up off it's side stand and a small square of floor paint came with it, so I'm keen to get the proper stuff this time around.

I've made various enquiries and have decided on the following -

1. Check floor to ensure concrete has dried out enought. I have about a 10" screed which can take four months to sufficiently dry before coating.

2. Coat surface of floor with acid etching.

3. Coat with two coats of Bradite EW99 water based epoxy coating using a roller - the first coat diluted 10% with water. 3 litres will cover 6m.sq.

That should be the business.
 


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