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Should one hold out for one with this option pack ?

Sports Suspension - £360.00

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Due to the longer spring travel and the special tuning of the damper and spring elements, the Sport suspension is better prepared for off-road riding. The spring rates, specially tuned for sporty use, optimise traction, both on the road and off the beaten track. This means that the motorcycle is finally ready for challenging adventures.

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Long spring travel to better cope with off-road riding

Optimised traction for on and off-road use

Includes Dynamic Suspension Adjustment
 
special tuning of the damper and spring elements.... The spring rates, specially tuned for sporty use, optimise traction on the road
I get on the cars the first thing you do is set it to Comfort Plus - and still wonder why the hell they gave you a car set up for the race track,
and book an ongoing appointment for the osteopath on the way home

but I guess on the R1300GS it really means better quality suspension units ?
 
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I guess it depends if you’re going off road a lot

I believe the sport suspension also precludes the automatic height control option if you wanted that

thanks -

I saw review a few nights back - but just rechecked - he was referring to this Option


I guess this covers it..... a baby jump and an almighty landing

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The one massive surprise for me was the sports suspension. It is extraordinary. So markedly different to the Rallye X I rode last year. I felt the old bike was too soft, especially at the top of the stroke. The sports suspension on the Trophy X, however, has me singing its praises loudly from the hilltops


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thanks -

I saw review a few nights back - but just rechecked - he was referring to this Option


I guess this covers it..... a baby jump and an almighty landing

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I guess it depends on what you are going to be doing on the bike and your skill level....
 
found a post on another forum, checked configurator, and VIN of 5 bikes over again... (I now agree with the bit he wrote and I've made bold below...)

2025 R1300GSA

  • normal seat height = 34.3” (or 870 mm)

  • adaptive suspension low/high = 33.1”/34.3” (or 840 mm/870 mm)

  • adaptive suspension “comfort” low/high = 32.3/33.5 (820 mm/850 mm)
2025 R1300GS

  • normal seat height = 33.46” ( or 850 mm)

  • adaptive suspension low/high = 32.28”/33.46” (or 820 mm/850 mm)

  • sport suspension = 34.3” (or 870 mm)
  • sport suspension with adaptive ride height = 33.1”/34.3” (or 840 mm/870 mm)
In summary,

the adaptive ride height has 30mm of change between low position and high position. It can be set to auto, low, or high. The enduro ride mode deactivates the auto setting, and the rider can choose either high or low.

The sport suspension has different spring rates and 20mm additional travel. It is essentially the GSA suspension put on the GS.
 
reading BMW specs unlike earlier air cooled GSs (and so I was told LC bikes), the GS1300 vs GSA1300 does not have different steering geometry... but as the fork legs (and the back of the bike) are 20 mm longer you do get 6.8mm more trail on the GSA1300

which oddly is the exact opposite of the older bikes - where the GSA got a more normal steering feel (at low speed) with less rake and trail and more weight on the front

I have a 2007 GS on cast wheels with Dunlop RS3 front and back - road based tyres and the front is weird and lacks feel (got to love that aspect of telelever) - but I can throw it at 100mph corners and its normal and goes where its mean too

I also have a 2011 GSA with wire wheels, on Dunlop Trailmax Meridians, and round town the front feels way safer - like its connected to the road and its a normal bike - but go faster and it goes where it wants, its a bit wayward at speed and can't hold a line ever

All of which makes sense on the air cooled ones as the GSA was set for off-roading...

The LC 1200 and 1250 I've ridden sort of seem to work - but I didn't rate anything about these so never pushed on enough to care - aside from coming out of one wet corer in enduro pro at 75 mph where the back decided it wanted to come to the front on the way out of whats a 60mph bend in the dry.... which woke me up

The GS1300 I first rode was a bit nervous at the front, and I managed to get some nasty feel and two big slides where the front tucked in on 30 mph roundabouts. The next one I rode a year later seemed more normal (it had different tyres) but I did have one moment where the much stiffer front end with real triple clamps was too rigid. I came to the conclusion after this incident shook my left hand off the bars when ragging it into second on a rough bit of tarmac it needs the rubber mounted bars many decent bikes get to reduce vibration, as the triple clamps now make it too stiff...

As that'll cost money - they won't bother - so maybe the extra trail from 112mm on the GS to 118.6mm of the GSA will calm it down - and I won't have an issue using counter steer to throw bikes at corners - so I guess sport suspension option will be a big win ?

BELOW

I AM I RIGHT THINKING WHAT THEY CALL CASTER IS TRAIL ???
AND HOW CAN THEY HAVE 63.8 DEGREES ???
ARE THE NAMES JUST MUDDLED COZ THEY MAKE CARS ???


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Suspension travel, front / rear 190 mm / 200 mm

Wheelbase 1,518 mm

Castor 112 mm

Steering head angle 63.8 °


Suspension travel, front / rear 210 mm / 220 mm

Wheelbase 1,534 mm

Castor 118.8 mm

Steering head angle 63.8 °
 
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reading the other OZ bike mag website - an experienced tester that tried the sport suspension after his road test of the std GS went on to say he thought the traction control felt far more sophisticated...

which whilst it might have seen further dev during the year wait for the GSA (that gets the "sport suspension" as std), I suspect in line with BMWs marketing the additional travel likely has a smidge more sag, and more supple damping characteristics (coz it can afford to move more with all that extra ride height ) and that allows the wheels to better follow the naff roads we have - creating addional grip and thus allows you to go faster and stop better
 


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