Padlock & Chain Dilemma

[bumble beemer]

I need to carry a padlock and chain suitable for securing my 1200 GS to a fixed post whilst on holiday. The Oxford 1.6 metre padlock and chain I have weighs 5kg.

I have vario panniers and top box . Maximum permissible carrying capacity is 5kg for the top box and 10kg for a pannier. They are already at their maximum permissible weight. I will also be carrying a passenger.

It seems that without leaving my t shirts and pants behind , I can not carry the padlock with me.

Can anyone recommend an alternative, more lighter padlock and / or somewhere else on the bike to carry it.

Sensible suggestions please and TIA.

 

[oO Zebedee Oo]

This is what I use mate and where I bought it from.

On eBay now £16.79

MAMMOTH LOOP & 'U' CABLE LOCK

GENUINE 'BIKE IT UK' PRODUCT

SUPPLIED BY 'BIDSFORBIKES'- OFFICIALLY APPOINTED UK DEALERS

CABLE LOCK OFFERS THE SAME FUNCTIONALITY AS LOCK AND CHAINS, BUT WITH THE ADVANTAGE THAT THE LOCK HEAD IS INTEGRATED ON THE CABLE END

USE TO LOCK MOTORCYCLES TO GROUND ANCHORS AND OTHER SECURITY POINTS

INTEGRATED DISC LOCK FEATURES;

INTEGRATED MINI U-LOCK ALLOWS DISC LOCK FUNCTION
FULLY ROTATING FOR EASE OF USE
WEATHERPROOF BARREL COVER
14mm COVERED HARDENED STEEL SHACKLE

CABLE LOCK FEATURES;
WOVEN HARDENED STEEL CABLE WITH PROTECTIVE OUTER SLEEVE (14mm)
OUTER SLEEVE PROTECTS PAINTWORK AND RIMS
1.6m CABLE LENGTH
LOOP END ALLOWS 'NOOSE' FUNCTION FOR VERSATILE LOCKING OPTIONS

 

[Wapping]

1. I wouldn't worry about the weight.

2. I wouldn't take a fecking great chain on holiday, irrespective.

3. Have a look at the Abus website. Something like:

Special Lock 1850 (if you worry that some thief will cut the cable - which they might - I would stay at home)

or

Steel-o-flex 1360/110 - The advantage of this is that you do not have to carry a separate padlock and key

There are lots of other cable type locks, too.

Summat like this is good: http://www.wheelies.co.uk/p53962/Kryptonite-Series-2-U-Lock-with-4-Foot-Kryptoflex-Cable-.aspx

The good thing about these is that you can loop your helmets through them / run them down the arms of your jacket, when you go trolling about.... but you will need a padlock, too.

Try a Google search (it's a wonderful invention) of: cable lock motorcycle..... Something like this pops up, as if by magic....

http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=ca...crosoft:en-gb:IE-Address&safe=active&tbm=shop

Fill yer boots, as they say.


PS I take one of these: http://www.wheelies.co.uk/p58962/Kr...ble-Combo-Cable-with-FlexFrame-C-Bracket.aspx

Simple, cheap and as effective as.... well, just about anything else, I guess.

 

[bumble beemer]

Wapping, I am so pleased you replied .......

Insurance document states .........

'the bike must be chained and secured to an immovable object when left unattended'

Is a steel of flex or cable acceptable ?

 

[solidstate100]

5 kilos is neither here nor there. if you must take it, stuff it in regardless. I generally make do with a disc lock when I am away, and/or arrange the bike to be under cover/in a garage/in my bedroom/in hotel reception/inside a (large) tent (all of which has happened).

 

[Greg Masters]

Wapping, I am so pleased you replied .......

Insurance document states .........

'the bike must be chained and secured to an immovable object when left unattended'

Is a steel of flex or cable acceptable ?

Use a bathplug chain and suitcase padlock.

 

[solidstate100]

Wapping, I am so pleased you replied .......

Insurance document states .........

'the bike must be chained and secured to an immovable object when left unattended'

Is a steel of flex or cable acceptable ?

I think the key word is "chained"

 

[Adventure Boy]

Take the Lock and leave the passenger lol although dont tell R I said that

Dont worry about the top box weight my TB has allways got loads of crap in it and couple of days ago I took £127.83 in 1p 2p 5p 10p and 20ps to work in the top box to get it banked and it was fine,
you know the storey they air on the very side of caution another 2kg lock and chain in there wont hurt, wrap your BMW pants around it so it doesnt rattle about

All jokes aside enjoy the trip mate, send me some pics, and ill give you a shout when you get back maybe we can get out for the day before winter

 

[AberdeenAngus]

Get better insurance

 

[bumble beemer]

Greg, you should have pulled the bathplug out of the river before you drowned your bike last time we went green laning

AB, will send pics and meet up when we get back.

Perhaps I should just have two pints of beer a night as oppose to six to help with the weight.

 

[bumble beemer]

Get better insurance

The further east in Europe you go the more difficult it gets to get insurance.

 

[Adventure Boy]

A good poop before you leave will also help lol

 

[AberdeenAngus]

Anyway, you dont need to carry a chain - just one link, sawn in two

 

[Greg Masters]

Greg, you should have pulled the bathplug out of the river before you drowned your bike last time we went green laning

AB, will send pics and meet up when we get back.

Perhaps I should just have two pints of beer a night as oppose to six to help with the weight.

My simple point is that your insurance doesn't stipulate the lock size or the chain size.

 

[JerseyNeil]

I have an abus chain and lock which also weighs 4.6kg and have the same problem when travelling.

I have previously;
a) pre booked hotels with secure parking and left it at home.
b)given it to my mate to stick under the seat of his Fazer F1

b is a good option as we share the benefits of the lock by locking our bikes together. I just tell my mate I can't be bothered to take it and he happily puts it under his seat where there is ample room.

I can't help but think that a chain, no matter how expensive, still only deters the opportunist as a pro will still get it. Best answer to that is to make sure yours is not the most desirable bike there!!!!!

Neil

 

[Wapping]

Wapping, I am so pleased you replied .......

Insurance document states .........

'the bike must be chained and secured to an immovable object when left unattended'

Is a steel of flex or cable acceptable ?

An odd stipulation, but hey-ho.

Yes a decent cable (one adverised and sold to secure motorbikes, for example) and a recognised make of padlock (one advertised and sold to secure motorbikes, blah blah blah)... will suffice, for sure.

It would (probably) be held to be unreasonable that an insurer demanded a chain.

There is probably no definition in your policy as what constitues 'a chain' (ten meters of rusty old water well and bucket chain perhaps??). Particularly unresaonable if it was impracticable - and arguably very dangerous - to carry 5kg of the bloody thing on holiday!

 

[DrPete]

I've taken a chain away by either buying a lock bag that sits on the passenger seat (or a tail pack works as well if you're feeling flush), or by wrapping the chain around the arse end of the GS under the top box if the passenger seat is occupied.

 

[Deleted account 211025001]

Cables are very good, I have one that is approx 20mm thick and plenty long enough to loop through itself and attach to any nearby lamp post/whatever. It coils up in the base of the top box no problem. It has two 'flats' on it where peeps have tried cutting it (before I had a garage) but to no avail.

Get a shackle lock which will fit in the purpose made holder under the seat and that becomes your padlock.

Andres

 

[Wapping]

The answer is at hand....

Wear it....

 

[oO Zebedee Oo]

Anyway, you dont need to carry a chain - just one link, sawn in two

This I like lol