this seems to confuse lots of people around here, even had one police officer think differently
It can confuse them all you like but its still true, dont confuse me none and I have spent the last twenty years or so in the old bill.
Pedestrian crossing rules?
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It can confuse them all you like but its still true, dont confuse me none and I have spent the last twenty years or so in the old bill.
pathfinder
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FFS run over the feckers.
If you're in the PUB CARPARK, then it's fine, as it's private. This actually happened to a mate.
Asleep in his car, the old bill wake him, breathalyse him and nick him. It goes to court. Once the judge learns that he was parked in the pub carpark, it got thrown out of court and the arresting copper was given a good talking too...
Only once the pub closes.
Am I right in thinking that the same sort of policy re: a pedestrian crossing the road at a junction... i.e. if a pedestrian is crossing the road at a junction (across the give way bit of course), the car/bike/lorry driver has to give way to the pedestrian?
And once given way (at a junction or crossing) am I right in saying the vehicle must not proceed until the crossing is clear completely?
And once given way (at a junction or crossing) am I right in saying the vehicle must not proceed until the crossing is clear completely?
AberdeenAngus
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NOPE - Don't know what happened to your mate but he was telling you porkies. Drink driving regs apply equally in a pub car park or any place where the public have access to including private car parks. Not just on a public highway.
http://www.80mg.org.uk/ddlaw.html
As far as drunk in charge - it's not a simple case of keys in pocket therefore guilty. There has to be an expectation that you were going to drive before sobering up.
i.e. you are drunk, you sleep in the car, if you wake up at 4 in the morning, you're probably going to drive home still under the influence.
By giving the keys to the landlord - you are showing that you had consciously planned not to drive until sober.
Motorhome - not an issue. There is no expectation that you are going to drive before sobering up.
Grey Beard
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A little clear thought and you should reach the correct answer* on your own.
*Hint: When is it ever okay to run-over a pedestrian?
Yes, but the pedestrian must also give the approaching vehicle(s) reasonable time to stop before stepping onto the crossing (should not require an emergency stop).
Naturally a driver should be trying to anticipate such pedestrians likely crossings, especially old/partially sighted, young children or just others with lemming like tendencies.
Grey Beard
Aside from the fact that my reply was specifically aimed at the question that pedestrians should be accorded precedence even away from crossings (zebra, pelicon or those "blind" crossings where there is a central refuge and only two parallel lines of metal studs), it is expected (often erroneously) that motorists know that pedestrians always have a potential to "cross unheeded" and should act accordingly.
I can think of only two offences that pedestrians can commit; Wilful Obstruction and Loitering on a Pedestrian Crossing. We have no offence of jaywalking or of careless bi-pedal motion. The onus is always upon the motorist (however unfair that might appear).
