Pidcock Motorcycles- where to start

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a few weeks ago i decided to buy a G650GS Sertao and chose Pidcocks in Nottingham as the location from which to purchase from. They had a nearly new one, an ex demonstrator and it looked very nice. As an official BMW dealership I expected good service bit its been a real nightmare and I feel i need to vent my frustration.

I pretty much did the deal over the phone due to the distance involved, probably my fault but I just expected the bike to be tip top and have done this previously with no problems. I was surprised after making the enquiry on the BMW website to find that it was the Triumph section that called me back. No bother I thought they are the same company. Having agreed the figures I arranged the handover date and rode the 120 miles to the dealer. About half way up the M1 I could hear my phone ringing so i pulled into the services and discovered it was Pidcocks, i phoned them back and the salesman said that he had got the figures wrong and asked for a considerable sum of money in order to complete the deal. I refused to pay any more and was told to just continue and we would resolve it on my arrival.
I arrived at the dealer and having managed to resolve the issue discovered that the computer system (finance) was down and would likely not be on again until the following day. after about 6 hours I had to ride all the way home on my part exchange bike, I vowed to pull out of the deal as id ridden all that way for pretty much nothing other than a cold drink.

Whilst I was at the dealer i noticed that the end of the spokes (nipples) had corrosion and the screen was badly scratched, this was not communicated to me prior to riding up and was not visible on the photos. After announcing my intention to leave I was told that they would polish the spokes up. i was offered a new touring screen to sweeten the deal and for my trouble. I felt that they were trying to resolve this and I gave them the benefit of the doubt, they even offered to have the bike delivered free of charge and filled my current bike with fuel for the wasted journey.

a couple of days later i decided to return to the dealer myself to pick up the bike. the touratech stand had not arrived because it takes 2 weeks for them to deliver and was told that it would be forwarded on to me with the screen. Not a problem i thought. I asked to see the service book to confirm that the running in service had been completed and as a BMW bike i assumed that this would be the case, indeed the bike was advertised as such. The salesman told me the book hadnt been stamped and they would need to take it to the BMW branch round the corner. I asked to confirm that the running in service was done at 600 miles as per the manufacturers spec and I was assured it had. I know alarm bells were ringing but as offical BMW and Triumph dealers i just didnt expect any hassle and previous experience from selling cars told me that people can forget to stamp the book. On the way home I nipped into the BMW section service department and asked to confirm that the bike was indeed serviced at 600 miles. I was assured after a check on the computer that it had and all of their demo bikes were serviced to the specification of BMW Motorrad. With this piece of mind I set off back down south for a 2nd time but on my new sertao.

I was going on holiday the following day and so the salesman said that it would all be despatched when i got back. On my return the salesman phoned me to say that the stand, screen and book had all been despatched. This was the Monday. Thursday arrived and nothing had been delivered so I phoned the dealer and the sales manager said that he would get the salesman to ring me back, no such call was returned.
Saturday arrived and nothing had been delivered, i phoned again and was told the salesman would call me back. several hours later I was called back and told the parcel hadnt been sent and that it would be with me for Wednesday (today). I expressed my disappointment but keen to put it behind me didnt take it further.

Today the parcel arrived, the screen is exactly the same as the one that comes with the Sertao and most annoyingly the service book is showing that the running in service was done at 1256 miles. I am furious, I have been lied to by both salesman and BMW service staff that the service was done at 600 miles, 1256 is unnacceptable and not what is recommended by the manufacturer. Unfortunately pidcocks arnt open today and so i vented my anger at BMW Motorrad who will investigate tomorrow when Pidcocks re-open. What I cant understand is, if the service was done at 1256 miles (the exact mileage I picked it up at), then how did it do the mile + to the triumph section? the BMW stamp is present although the front part of the service book (vin etc...) has been left blank. Have i been allowed to ride away on a new bike at 1256 miles that has not been serviced and still contains its running in oil? The oil is golden and so I expect that it has been changed but who knows if and when?

Now I know that many people will tell me I should have pulled out straight away but the dealer have tried to resolve the initial problems but the efforts to rectify them have been plagued with continued blunders and downright lies. Very frustrated, I wasnt going to write anything because I thought our differences had been sorted... I was wrong and feel very upset. maybe ive brought this on myself but I trusted BMW and Triumph Pidcocks to sell me a genuine bike, as promised and as advertised and Im left with a bike that I cant even be sure is fit to ride. the worst experience ive had by far in vehicle purchase. i feel pretty helpless and not sure how to proceed, i just want a road ready bike, something I was told id bought but something i might not have.
 
Should have gone to Rainbow:D

I thought you had a 800GS?

Looks like Mick had a good deal @ Rainbow:D
 
Bunch of bstards I wouldn't deal with them after my last experience plus they close two days a week or did what's that about cnuts :mad:
 
Bunch of bstards I wouldn't deal with them after my last experience plus they close two days a week or did what's that about cnuts :mad:

I'd second that. I live about 15min from them but if I ever need a BMW dealer will travel to Wollastons (1 hour away)
 
I'd second that. I live about 15min from them but if I ever need a BMW dealer will travel to Wollastons (1 hour away)


ive dealt with wollastons before and should have gone back. nothing but praise for them
 
Bunch of bstards I wouldn't deal with them after my last experience plus they close two days a week or did what's that about cnuts :mad:

So do Rainbow, and to be honest I think they are all as bad as each other... including Rainbow who I feel let us down badly.
 
the dealer has made a false statement about the bike and as such is not as described,
When you buy a used motor vehicle from a trader, you enter into a legally binding contract and you are entitled to expect that it is of satisfactory quality, fit for purpose, and as described, i think you have a short time after buying it to reject it, good luck get advice ,the're franchised by motorad complain there as well,
 
the dealer has made a false statement about the bike and as such is not as described,
When you buy a used motor vehicle from a trader, you enter into a legally binding contract and you are entitled to expect that it is of satisfactory quality, fit for purpose, and as described, i think you have a short time after buying it to reject it, good luck get advice ,the're franchised by motorad complain there as well,


thanks for the advice. because i went on holiday for 2 weeks my insurance is going to charge me hundreds to change or cancel. im reluctant to return it because im going to be massively out of pocket. id be happier if i could just have it properly serviced. i have spoken to BMW motorrad and hopefully they will help to sort it out
 
my mate just came up with a good point, will the warranty be void if its been serviced at 1256 miles?
 
my mate just came up with a good point, will the warranty be void if its been serviced at 1256 miles?

It could be that the bike was serviced at 600 ish miles, but not stamped up at the time.

The other half of the dealership then asks the BMW side to stamp the book, and after checking that it was done, they stamped it up, putting the current mileage and date on the book :nenau

(backdating a service stamp may be frowned upon officially, I dunno)

I'd suggest writing it all down and getting the dealer to confirm IN WRITING that the warranty is still valid etc....and as always with this sort of dispute, be calm, friendly and factual but firm :thumb2

Good luck :)
 
It could be that the bike was serviced at 600 ish miles, but not stamped up at the time.

The other half of the dealership then asks the BMW side to stamp the book, and after checking that it was done, they stamped it up, putting the current mileage and date on the book :nenau

(backdating a service stamp may be frowned upon officially, I dunno)

I'd suggest writing it all down and getting the dealer to confirm IN WRITING that the warranty is still valid etc....and as always with this sort of dispute, be calm, friendly and factual but firm :thumb2

Good luck :)


your right, thanks for the advice. i really hope it was done properly but id be interested to see the original job card as proof because ive lost trust.
 
there's no problem "backdating" a service stamp. they put the mileage shown on the computer, not the bike.

mine's just had that very thing. i forgot the book when it was last serviced, stamped weeks & more than a few miles later.
 
If it's any consolation (& it won't be, sorry) their BMW branch is equally dreadful.
I used them for some years but they've gone downhill dreadfully recently. I've started using Rainbow as advised by a no. of people on here, a bit mixed so far but certainly considerably better than my last experience at Piddy's.
 
ive had 4 new gs's from piddies in last 7 years and never had a problem, sales, service, always made to feel welcome with a coffee as soon as i walk in, like mr fanum says, keep your cool and im sure they'll sort it:thumby:
 
thanks for the advice chaps. it seems that it was indeed serviced at 1256 miles so i need to ensure that a. it was actually done and B. the manufacturers warranty is in tact. im reluctant to get into a long drawn out battle to return it because my insurance cooling off period is over and ive bought accessories for it. hopefully it can be resolved. the bike seems ok so we will see. if i can see its been done and ive still got the warranty then...
 
I asked to see the service book to confirm that the running in service had been completed and as a BMW bike i assumed that this would be the case, indeed the bike was advertised as such. The salesman told me the book hadnt been stamped and they would need to take it to the BMW branch round the corner. I asked to confirm that the running in service was done at 600 miles as per the manufacturers spec and I was assured it had.

my mate just came up with a good point, will the warranty be void if its been serviced at 1256 miles?

your right, thanks for the advice. i really hope it was done properly but id be interested to see the original job card as proof because ive lost trust.

BMW Pidcock will have a record of the mileage of the service. Get that confirmed and ask them for a copy of the invoice, even if only an internal one - they will have a record they can print off.

Also check the service book - there's often a range within which the bike can have its running in service - I think mine was between 600 and 1100 miles or somesuch (strange figures when converted from KMs), which may make you feel a bit better even if it was serviced at 1256 miles.

As Fanum suggested, be firm and fair but insist on a written resolution, particularly re warranty. Good luck.
 
BMW Pidcock will have a record of the mileage of the service. Get that confirmed and ask them for a copy of the invoice, even if only an internal one - they will have a record they can print off.

Also check the service book - there's often a range within which the bike can have its running in service - I think mine was between 600 and 1100 miles or somesuch (strange figures when converted from KMs), which may make you feel a bit better even if it was serviced at 1256 miles.

As Fanum suggested, be firm and fair but insist on a written resolution, particularly re warranty. Good luck.


thanks for the help. ill try and get a copy of the service job card and a letter regarding the warranty. the manual says running in check HAS to be performed between 500km and 1200km.
 


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