Preservation vs. customisation?

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Sometimes, like tonite, I quietly contemplate life over a mug of mead.
Mead seems to have special qualities that way, for me. But I digress, so lets get to the point ... and I apologize if this perhaps is a tune you've all heard once too many already.

See, I have this bike. A '86 R80 G/S with 41000 km on the clock and in perfect mechanical trim. Give it a good scrub and polish and it will be pristine, as well.

At the moment it is my ony bike, and I ride it more or less daily.

And, as is my nature, I'm slowly adapting said bike to my taste. Not much ... yet. Just stuff unbolted and placed in the 'I don't need THAT' pile in the attic.

But I know myself well. At some point I'll get to the more or less inevitable and hard to undo cutting and welding stage.

And it is a (semi) rare beast this bike. Being unupgraded and original.

I don't care about value, this specific bike isn't for sale. I intend to keep it. Indefinetly, as in someone will have to pry it from my cold hands one day.

But still it bothers me. A bit. On nights like this. That I'm not more into preservation than I am.

So, gentlemen (and ladies), what be your thoughts and feelings on the subject? In general terms, not just relating to this old viking and his old bike?
 
yep, get out the angle grinder and attack it......... Hard!! :thumb2 Every time that happens to another original g/s it makes mine worth a little bit more.......:augie
 
I don't care about value, this specific bike isn't for sale. I intend to keep it. Indefinetly, as in someone will have to pry it from my cold hands one day.

But still it bothers me. A bit. On nights like this. That I'm not more into preservation than I am.

Some take pride in having an original bike, others take pride in having the perfect bike for them.

You seem to fall clearly into the second category, and if you really don't care about its value and you intend to keep it, just get on with it, just making sure you don't spoil it for yourself by doing something that takes it too far over the perfect line that suits YOU :thumb
 
Every time that happens to another original g/s it makes mine worth a little bit more.......:augie
Undoubtedly. But, you see, in a market economy my unwillingness to part with the bike at any reasonable price does as much for the value of yours. If not more. =)
 
It is hard - especially when it appears that obsessive over-restoration is all the rage.

I have a Z1A in the garage at the moment, chrome is pitted, exhaust long gone, paint stained and worn etc

But to me, that's the original paint and chrome - if I spend £1000s having it redone - it will end up just being a replica

(and dont get me started on the twats that spend £600 on the metal plug caps that were broken off on the 1st service because they caused misfires)
 
just making sure you don't spoil it for yourself by doing something that takes it too far over the perfect line that suits YOU :thumb
Wise words, those. Would be very easy to go down that road to far.
Fortunatley I'm lazy and too fond of riding to get up any real momentum in the mofifying department... :)
Grind it....... :thumb
Aye. The right rear footpeg mount is an eyesore. Soon. Not yet, but soon.
 
It is hard - especially when it appears that obsessive over-restoration is all the rage.

I have a Z1A in the garage at the moment, chrome is pitted, exhaust long gone, paint stained and worn etc

But to me, that's the original paint and chrome - if I spend £1000s having it redone - it will end up just being a replica

(and dont get me started on the twats that spend £600 on the metal plug caps that were broken off on the 1st service because they caused misfires)

Therein lies the dichotomy of Trigger's broom :thumb
 
I have a Z1A in the garage at the moment, chrome is pitted, exhaust long gone, paint stained and worn etc

But to me, that's the original paint and chrome - if I spend £1000s having it redone - it will end up just being a replica
Ah, yes. Thats another facet. Renovation.
I don't do that to vehicles; I prefer patina to 'renovated beyond new and into dreamland'.
Difficult subject this. Well, to me at least. =)
 
If you are concerned about the originality of your bike being destroyed in your efforts to make it more to you taste.

Fear not :rob It's a BMW. Almost all the parts that you are likely to want to err! modernise, are replaceable. I adapted/customised Jill's 100 GS a few years ago. All the parts I chopped about where bought second hand, and all the original parts have been boxed up and can be refitted if desired at a later date to bring the bike back to it's original state. :thumby:


Val.
 
I think there's one important point to always bear in mind: its only a 'king motorbike.
It may be a very good one, but it was built to be ridden not to be titivated.
Pass the mead....
Tibs
 
My G/S PD is a rider, and has been for the last 380,000 km no matter who owned it.

There is hardly a part on it that hasn't been replaced, modernised or upgraded, to make it a better bike for the job it has to do. And it has all come together very well.

And very little that has been done for style or fashion.

But as ValH said, there is nothing that cant be undone. The bike came with all the OEM parts in a couple of boxes and I have kept everything I have changed.'

I cant think of anything I could do that would be irreversible, apart from , needless fashion items like frame bracing ,USD forks or extended paralever rear ends.And even most of them could probably be removed.

But if that is your idea of a dream bike, go for it.

But you dont need a good bike to do it - so why not sell the G/.S to someone who appreciates it and rescue something from the scrap heap for your grand plans ?
 
Who is going to buy it in 10-15 years time? Kids aren't into them, those that remember the heady days of the African Dakar will start losing their memories & most of us will be wanting to get rid of them & into mobility scooters.

I saw a beautifully restored orange Hillman Avenger complete with rally lites the other day. I couldn't work out why seeing an underpowered bad handling ugly looking car made me feel happy.
 
Been searching the net for reference photos as I begin reassembling my 80g/s and 80 g/sPD after painting. The thing that struck me is that very few are unmodified. It's good to have some that are restored to factory as a historic reference but the others reflect their different owners and journeys and that is their true history.
 
Yesterday mead and introspection.
Today changing the rear fender.

Oh, and going for a spin. Good chances of thunderstorm! That always does make for good riding.

I'm glad to find that I seem to be amongst like minded people here; most the joy of a bike is in the riding, the owning (or collecting) being very much secondary if at all important.

Taste is another matter. Personally I like skulls, open exhausts, maltese crosses, aces of spade, hot chicks, swords and axes. But not harleys... =)
 
The worst thing that happened to airheads was the values going up, up until then they were cheap bikes that people happily chopped about and changed to suit themselves, the value of the bike was irrelevant and the pleasure came from riding a machine that had been changed to suit the owner.

One of the things I like about airheads is that they are all different. It's only recently that there's been any concern over what's original or not, changes are made with an eye to the value of the machine which spoils things a bit.

Theres no greater pleasure than riding a machine that you know every tick and tap from the engine, aren't worried about knocking the bike about but would trust it completely to get you anywhere.

I have 5 bikes (including a Harley ;)) my favourite is an old 100/7 thats done over 200,000 miles. theres so many things wrong with it it would never be feasible to restore it, it's scruffy, leaks and the bores are badly worn. it's a great machine though, stands neglected for months at a time and then fires straight up and will take me anywhere. Thats what airheads should be like.

Wegintherain.jpg
 
One of the things I like about airheads is that they are all different. It's only recently that there's been any concern over what's original or not, changes are made with an eye to the value of the machine which spoils things a bit.

Wegintherain.jpg

+1

sweet bike

btw- that a slug trail or a road?
 


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