Properly warm gloves? Do they exist?

I was gonna say, 3-finger-gloves.
I have had a pair of Hein Gericke for donkeys years and if I don't want to use my heated gear, they are the best solution.
I also have spastic fingers that go white below 20c :)
Also have had a pair of these for years, excellent in cold weather
 
Now I know you said no heated gloves but are you aware that some of the better make heated gloves available can run off batteries fitted in a pocket on their backs? :nenau
They would work on a motorbike and push bike.

Lots of rechargeable ones too.
 
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Good luck finidng something that works well on both a motorbike at motorbike speeds and an e-bike at 10-20 mph. The gloves for the motorbike are likely to be pretty bulky so may make cycling 'feel' more difficult (I have the Richa Arctic and really rate them but wouldn't contemplate wearing them whilst cycling, for cycling in the cold I wear some old Sealskinz gloves...as in 20 yrs old and still going strong if a little tatty)
 
When i first started riding i was travelling back from Wales and it was baltic.

my hands where so cold i was struggling with brake and clutch pulls....
I pulled into a garage and slipped on some of them cheap plastic gloves people use to fill diesel.
i wore them under my then cheap gloves and surprisingly my hands were warmer.

Lesson learned winter gloves MUST be windproof and waterproof or they are absolutely useless..

i wear Knox summer gloves and Keis heated gloves in winter... obviously electric apologies i know you don't want that route.

Some tips though...
Size up, tight fitting gloves although feeling snug and closer are colder, they restrict flow.
Buy Gantlets that send wind up your arm, not up your sleeve!! brrrrrr
As other have said add a layer to your core, base layer or fleece under your jacket.
lastly... put the bike away until next spring and use the car 😁
 
I use RST's Paragon heated gloves. I know that the OP said he didn't want heated gloves, but I've been down this rabbit hole so many times over 40 years of winter riding, they're the only thing that work, bar fitting handlebar muffs to your bike. I find the RST's so warm anyway, that I only switch the heating function on if it's really parky, around 5 or 6 degrees. Above that I can get away without for at least an hour or so's riding between 5 and 10 degrees. They're the best one's I've tried and not too expensive either for a decent set of gauntlet gloves compared to more premium brands.
 
Layers is what works for me, thin fleecy liner gloves, a decent light weight main glove and overgloves for rain/sub zero days. A pair of merino wrist warmers works wonders as well.
 
I’ve found that the thing that makes the biggest difference in extreme low temperatures is over gloves.

Just like we wear base layers below our troos and jackets and a rain suit over the top if it’s wet or proper cold, so the same with your hands.

The best over gloves are Goretex shell mittens. Mine are from the mountaineering world. Yes, you sacrifice dexterity but you lose that when your hands are cold anyway.
 
Having suffered some nerve damage, I really struggle with cold hands. Anything in single digit temperatures and it's agony time.

I'm looking for some recommendations on properly warm gloves, not looking at heated gloves, and ideally I'd like something that will work on the bike, and my eBike, so whilst heated grips help, that's no use on the eBike.

Cost isn't really an issue, but don't want to throw loads of cash at something that's no better than useless.

Roger....

It strikes me that gloves used on a motorcycle are often different to gloves used on a bicycle. Are you determined to find one pair of gloves that serve both purposes?

When it comes to heat, there is little that can beat electricity. That simple fact explains the presence of heated grips on motorcycles, along with heated seats. But, you’ve ruled out electrical power. Why, when modern electrical gloves (powered by their own batteries, independent from the motorcycle’s battery) are pretty good?

If you are set on NOT using electricity to heat the gloves, I think I’d start by looking at a pair of gloves for use on the motorcycle and a different pair for use on your bicycle, not least as the demands of each are maybe different.

On a motorcycle, it’s often a battle against windchill, as much as anything else. Before they fell foul of the style police, muffs coupled to heated grips and lighter gloves were the ‘Go to’ choice. If this combination is unacceptable, then some form of layering and / or trapping a layer of air (which your body heats) to act as an insulation is a pretty good start. Amongst the most efficient gloves for this are the ‘Lobster claw’ styled gloves. This assumes you like the style. If the answer is no, then you are looking at a whole heap of gloves, some of which might be bulky. Go to a half decent motorcycle clothing store (Infinity, for example) and try some on.

On a bicycle, I have just Googled ‘good winter bicycling gloves’. There’s a heap of choice and styles, including battery powered gloves. Pick the one you’d like the most.

:beerjug:

PS And yes, keeping the core of your body warm, will definitely help. Again, how you do that on a motorcycle, may well be different to the method you use on a bicycle.
 
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On the motorbike I use Barkbuster Storm handguards which are bigger than stock ones, they keep the wind off the front and top of your hand but finger tips and thumb can get cold as the wind whips up under them, I've added some corrugated black plastic to the bottom, they are almost as effective at reducing windchill as muffs but look like handguards.

I can't help with the push bike but as said, two very different issues, that require two different types of glove.
 


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