Pulling away from the lights

[Cooky]

Anyone else have this? 2014 LC, lovely, awesome, life changing, etc but tricky to pull away cleanly/quickly from the lights during my city commute. Oddly easier in Rain and Dynamic. Very difficult in 'Road'. 2010 was like shit off a shovel from the lights but with the LC it's hard to get the bite point cleanly engaged unless you take it very steady or happen to get it just right.

I assume this is to do with the fueling maps, wet clutch and lighter fly wheel but does it get better with age and have others experienced it or is it just me?

 

[rattler]

No problem with mine just have to get use to wet clutch after years of the old dry one pulls much faster than old GS

 

[stubox]

Nope no issues with mine ( in Road or Dynamic).

Have noticed other riders nervously move out of the way when I stamp into first gear and the CLONK echoes off the cars.....

 

[Vitalmark]

Mine is exactly the same. I think it's just the way it is. Pidcocks swear there's nothing wrong with it.
I run mine in road mode now after a few months in dynamic. You just have to give it more throttle than you usually would and the same on gear changes. Just carry a slightly positive throttle.
Oh and wear good ear plugs so the clonks aren't so bad

 

[GC6269]

I think it's one of those bikes that just needs a few more revs than you're used to when it comes to getting off the line.

 

[Nutty]

Anyone else have this? 2014 LC, lovely, awesome, life changing, etc but tricky to pull away cleanly/quickly from the lights during my city commute. Oddly easier in Rain and Dynamic. Very difficult in 'Road'. 2010 was like shit off a shovel from the lights but with the LC it's hard to get the bite point cleanly engaged unless you take it very steady or happen to get it just right.

I assume this is to do with the fueling maps, wet clutch and lighter fly wheel but does it get better with age and have others experienced it or is it just me?

It's just you

Mine is exactly the same. I think it's just the way it is. Pidcocks swear there's nothing wrong with it.
I run mine in road mode now after a few months in dynamic. You just have to give it more throttle than you usually would and the same on gear changes. Just carry a slightly positive throttle.
Oh and wear good ear plugs so the clonks aren't so bad

And you.

 

[Hamslay]

Mine's fine.

 

[Jumblemo]

No problem here. Though sometimes I have to lay off the throttle to get the front wheel back down on Tarmac.

 

[Rupert Jordan]

Yep, I have the same problem. My last bike's throttle was like an on/off switch. The GS's is taking a bit of getting used to. Stalled it a few times - even kangaroo'd it once (never done that before on a bike).

 

[JayC]

Ok, I own up , I just don't get it!

I had a loan WC whilst my 2012 1200 relic was in for it's last service, and to me, it was, fundamentally, just another motorcycle.
What is all of this grief people keep having with this bloody bike?

Look, if it were a car you had issues with I'd understand, to a point. But a bike?
Hands, my friends, hands...we use them every day to feel, touch, manipulate, lever, force , I mean the things we do with our hands on a daily basis are countless. Our hands provide us with instant feedback every day of our lives. FFS, blind people use their hands to see with and then some able bodied bod (did you see what I did there - I made an assumption ) comes along and says he can't make a clean get away at the lights.

Feet, now they're a different kettle of fish altogether. They are clumsy and don't have the dexterity that our hands do, and so a kangarooing car, during an initiation period is, to some degree, acceptable, but you don't operate a bike with a foot clutch do you?

FFS get a grip on how to ride a motorcycle!

I've owned singles, twins, triples, fours, v-twins and boxers over the years - some with a dry clutch, some with a wet clutch , wtf , how long does it need to take to familiarise with these darn evil contraptions?
Is it a born again biker thing because I'm fucked if I can fathom why pulling away from lights is so difficult!

Your hand is King , talk to the hand , don't listen to the foot, it knows fuck all!

 

[DING-DONG]

Stop being a pussy and gas the throttle like ya stole it from the lights, ASC will save your bacon, alternative turn it off and pull a minger.

 

[jtb]

Stop being a pussy and gas the throttle like ya stole it from the lights, ASC will save your bacon, alternative turn it off and pull a minger.

Maybe, although the ASC is a bit of a pita when it does kick in, it's not at all progressive, it just shuts the drive down. Shame you can't adjust it.

Cheers
Jimmy

 

[Jumblemo]

Ok, I own up , I just don't get it!

I had a loan WC whilst my 2012 1200 relic was in for it's last service, and to me, it was, fundamentally, just another motorcycle.
What is all of this grief people keep having with this bloody bike?

Look, if it were a car you had issues with I'd understand, to a point. But a bike?
Hands, my friends, hands...we use them every day to feel, touch, manipulate, lever, force , I mean the things we do with our hands on a daily basis are countless. Our hands provide us with instant feedback every day of our lives. FFS, blind people use their hands to see with and then some able bodied bod (did you see what I did there - I made an assumption ) comes along and says he can't make a clean get away at the lights.

Feet, now they're a different kettle of fish altogether. They are clumsy and don't have the dexterity that our hands do, and so a kangarooing car, during an initiation period is, to some degree, acceptable, but you don't operate a bike with a foot clutch do you?

FFS get a grip on how to ride a motorcycle!

I've owned singles, twins, triples, fours, v-twins and boxers over the years - some with a dry clutch, some with a wet clutch , wtf , how long does it need to take to familiarise with these darn evil contraptions?
Is it a born again biker thing because I'm fucked if I can fathom why pulling away from lights is so difficult!

Your hand is King , talk to the hand , don't listen to the foot, it knows fuck all!

In a nutshell!

 

[telbenj]

exactly

I think it's one of those bikes that just needs a few more revs than you're used to when it comes to getting off the line.

Its one of those more modern type bikes with a bit of horse power, give it some welly this bike suits a more aggressive approach I think that's why a lot of people think there are problems with it especially the ones that have had the previous models.
This bike is new kid on the block, with steroids
for the people that have come from a jap bike, it feels normal.

 

[Nutty]

Ok, I own up , I just don't get it!

I had a loan WC whilst my 2012 1200 relic was in for it's last service, and to me, it was, fundamentally, just another motorcycle.
What is all of this grief people keep having with this bloody bike?

Look, if it were a car you had issues with I'd understand, to a point. But a bike?
Hands, my friends, hands...we use them every day to feel, touch, manipulate, lever, force , I mean the things we do with our hands on a daily basis are countless. Our hands provide us with instant feedback every day of our lives. FFS, blind people use their hands to see with and then some able bodied bod (did you see what I did there - I made an assumption ) comes along and says he can't make a clean get away at the lights.

Feet, now they're a different kettle of fish altogether. They are clumsy and don't have the dexterity that our hands do, and so a kangarooing car, during an initiation period is, to some degree, acceptable, but you don't operate a bike with a foot clutch do you?

FFS get a grip on how to ride a motorcycle!

I've owned singles, twins, triples, fours, v-twins and boxers over the years - some with a dry clutch, some with a wet clutch , wtf , how long does it need to take to familiarise with these darn evil contraptions?
Is it a born again biker thing because I'm fucked if I can fathom why pulling away from lights is so difficult!

Your hand is King , talk to the hand , don't listen to the foot, it knows fuck all!

Nail on the head there, Jay. Problem is, lots of owners of the new GS have never owned a GS before, and are both excited, and nervous, so feel the need to post absolutely EVERY issue, good or bad, on here. If most people just got on and rode their bikes rather than whinging on here, most of these "issues" wouldn't exist.

 

[Engineer]

Ok, I own up , I just don't get it!

I had a loan WC whilst my 2012 1200 relic was in for it's last service, and to me, it was, fundamentally, just another motorcycle.
What is all of this grief people keep having with this bloody bike?

Look, if it were a car you had issues with I'd understand, to a point. But a bike?
Hands, my friends, hands...we use them every day to feel, touch, manipulate, lever, force , I mean the things we do with our hands on a daily basis are countless. Our hands provide us with instant feedback every day of our lives. FFS, blind people use their hands to see with and then some able bodied bod (did you see what I did there - I made an assumption ) comes along and says he can't make a clean get away at the lights.

Feet, now they're a different kettle of fish altogether. They are clumsy and don't have the dexterity that our hands do, and so a kangarooing car, during an initiation period is, to some degree, acceptable, but you don't operate a bike with a foot clutch do you?

FFS get a grip on how to ride a motorcycle!

I've owned singles, twins, triples, fours, v-twins and boxers over the years - some with a dry clutch, some with a wet clutch , wtf , how long does it need to take to familiarise with these darn evil contraptions?
Is it a born again biker thing because I'm fucked if I can fathom why pulling away from lights is so difficult!

Your hand is King , talk to the hand , don't listen to the foot, it knows fuck all!

+1
There are a lot of whiners on this site - if you find riding a motorcycle difficult then don't do it? Why does everyone expect to have their hands held throughout their entire lives? Weird.

 

[telbenj]

exactly again

Nail on the head there, Jay. Problem is, lots of owners of the new GS have never owned a GS before, and are both excited, and nervous, so feel the need to post absolutely EVERY issue, good or bad, on here. If most people just got on and rode their bikes rather than whinging on here, most of these "issues" wouldn't exist.

Exactly, ive read lots of points or issues on various forums over the years depending on what bike I have and this one seems to have more totally novice type questions, so its probably fair to say that its born again or new older riders that have got to the stage in their lives with some disposable cash gone out and brought the Boorman / McGreggor bike.

You cant ride a Bike like you Drive a car.

Terry

 

[WindyChuffer]

Ok, I own up , I just don't get it!

I had a loan WC whilst my 2012 1200 relic was in for it's last service, and to me, it was, fundamentally, just another motorcycle.
What is all of this grief people keep having with this bloody bike?

Look, if it were a car you had issues with I'd understand, to a point. But a bike?
Hands, my friends, hands...we use them every day to feel, touch, manipulate, lever, force , I mean the things we do with our hands on a daily basis are countless. Our hands provide us with instant feedback every day of our lives. FFS, blind people use their hands to see with and then some able bodied bod (did you see what I did there - I made an assumption ) comes along and says he can't make a clean get away at the lights.

Feet, now they're a different kettle of fish altogether. They are clumsy and don't have the dexterity that our hands do, and so a kangarooing car, during an initiation period is, to some degree, acceptable, but you don't operate a bike with a foot clutch do you?

FFS get a grip on how to ride a motorcycle!

I've owned singles, twins, triples, fours, v-twins and boxers over the years - some with a dry clutch, some with a wet clutch , wtf , how long does it need to take to familiarise with these darn evil contraptions?
Is it a born again biker thing because I'm fucked if I can fathom why pulling away from lights is so difficult!

Your hand is King , talk to the hand , don't listen to the foot, it knows fuck all!

+1 !!!

 

[Cooky]

Nail on the head there, Jay. Problem is, lots of owners of the new GS have never owned a GS before, and are both excited, and nervous, so feel the need to post absolutely EVERY issue, good or bad, on here. If most people just got on and rode their bikes rather than whinging on here, most of these "issues" wouldn't exist.

This is my 3rd GS and my 15th year of commuting in London daily with traffic light GPs every day. I've had everything from 125s to 650s to KTMs to big GSs. Have always been very fast away from the lights. This has never been an 'issue' on any other bike so that's why I made the enquiry. I've been a member since 2002 and posted only about 360 times. That's a pretty low ratio so I don't think I can be accused of being over excited when it comes to forum posting about a new purchase (pot/kettle/black - a paradigm). Sounds like I just need to alter my riding style. Sounds like you need to care a little less.

I still don't understand why 'Road' would be so much more clumsy than either 'Rain' or 'Dynamic' on this issue. That can't be anything to do with me as I'm a neutral factor in that issue. Anyway - that's not a question.

 

[jonnyp]

Cooky...

My guess is, it's the traction control making it feel that way. If you have Enduro mode run in that, less interaction or, if you have the plug in under the seat turn the traction off and give that a try. Mines in Enduro mode all the time.

I've been riding for 30 years, had a GS before the WC, ridden all sorts. Day I picked mine up I stalled it at least three times if not more, lighter fly wheel, needs, as Terry said, a little more aggressive stance, until you get use to it, once you have, you be the fastest thing off the lights.... But only if your bike is RED!!!!