Quart into a pint pot?

John Roberts

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I'm trying to rip/copy a series of eight CD's using Windows Media Player. The problem is that I can only copy seven of them. At first when I realized that there was one missing I just ripped the missing one again but found that one of the others had disappeared by then. I tried again but the same thing happened, but another one had disappeared this time again. What I'm saying is that when I re-record the missing one then it goes into the library OK but in doing so it seems to push another one out.

TBH it isn't really a case of trying to put a quart into a pint pot any more because I copied another series of ten CD's just after with no bother at all into the same place, i.e. the library in Windows Media Player.

Any suggestions, please?
 
i think you may need to give more info.... what you were ripping... what format you were ripping it to.... what settings
 
Any suggestions, please?

Yes.

Step away from the computer or the alcohol, your call, then try again in the morning and it'll all make sense.

I bet they're still there, but in a different folder somewhere:augie
 
i think you may need to give more info.... what you were ripping... what format you were ripping it to.... what settings

First one is easy: I was ripping Michel Thomas's French course, that was the recalcitrant one (recalcitrant- did you get that- good 'un, innit?) followed by the Mail on Sunday French in a Week course, that's the other one I ripped, the one that was no bother.

Format... que?

Settings... que?

How can I find out?

Is it significant that the Mail on Sun. course which I ripped straight after gave no problems?
 
First one is easy: I was ripping Michel Thomas's French course, that was the recalcitrant one (recalcitrant- did you get that- good 'un, innit?) followed by the Mail on Sunday French in a Week course, that's the other one I ripped, the one that was no bother.

Format... que?

Settings... que?

How can I find out?

Is it significant that the Mail on Sun. course which I ripped straight after gave no problems?


No, but it has been noted that you're a Mail reader :D
 
Step away from the computer or the alcohol, your call, then try again in the morning and it'll all make sense.

I bet they're still there, but in a different folder somewhere:augie
Yes, that makes sense. (Both suggestions)

I've had a rummage around but couldn't see the missing one(s) anywhere. In one way it's annoying that the second lot (Mail on Sun) gave no problems at all. I hadn't deleted the M Thomas ones, they were (and still are) in the library, so by now it doesn't really look like there wasn't enough room in there. If that makes sense.
 
Yes, that makes sense. (Both suggestions)

I've had a rummage around but couldn't see the missing one(s) anywhere. In one way it's annoying that the second lot (Mail on Sun) gave no problems at all. I hadn't deleted the M Thomas ones, they were (and still are) in the library, so by now it doesn't really look like there wasn't enough room in there. If that makes sense.

Er, no, tbh it doesn't.....:(

The library is an artificial list...it's actually empty, just a big file that points to the actual location on the drives of the tracks listed in it......it's not a folder of tracks with a limited physical size if that makes sense.

The ones you ripped are still on the HD somewhere, I'm sure.....try doing an advanced search by date added and you may well find them...then you can go back to the library and point it at where the files are living :)
 
have you looked in the folder it saves the files to... not using the media player library lists... then your recycle bin
 
Tuned/Fanum,

I've found where they are stored (My Music#Michel Thomas)(Oi! the# should have come out as a / but leaning the other way. 'Kin puters. Bah) but no mention of the missing disc.

Hang on, I've just seen the Recycle Bin suggestion. Just a tick. No, not there either.

I've searched for a music file with File Name French with Michel Thomas with Word or phrase in the file Michel Thomas in the Local Hard Drives (C:) and modified as Within the past week. And it came up with nothing, ie no results. Which is bollox, as I said they are (or seven of them are) in My Music#Michel Thomas. Looks like I'm not searching properly.

Bugger. The smiley should not have appeared as a smiley, it should show as ( C : ) I've put spaces in to make it appear correctly there. It's just the location, the C Drive.
 
I've not tried his French course but Michel Thomas's German course is not a patch on Pimsleur's (both as rented from my local library). Out of idle curiosity, what does the Mail on Sunday course teach you apart from xenophobia? (competence in a foreign language in a week is a fantasy). I once convinced a friend that caniche was the ultimate French sandwich filler. I told his wife what a caniche was but I'm not sure she ever told him.
 
It may be that the media information on the "missing" disk is identical to one of the other disks, and could therefore be overwriting it.

Try ripping the missing disk again, but before doing so, change the path that WMP uses to a different location than the normal/default.
 

Would the following be the file name? Or more likely, its location:
C:\Documents and Settings\John.JOHN-02A97BFE4D\My Documents\My Music\Michel Thomas

I suppose its name would be just Michel Thomas then. So it looks that according to your link above:
"What is a File Extension?
A file extension is nothing more than the last characters after the period in the name of a file."​
the name does not have a File Extension, is that right?
 
It may be that the media information on the "missing" disk is identical to one of the other disks, and could therefore be overwriting it.

Try ripping the missing disk again, but before doing so, change the path that WMP uses to a different location than the normal/default.
Hi, Steve

How can I steer it to a different location?
 
Would the following be the file name? Or more likely, its location:
C:\Documents and Settings\John.JOHN-02A97BFE4D\My Documents\My Music\Michel Thomas

I suppose its name would be just Michel Thomas then. So it looks that according to your link above:
"What is a File Extension?
A file extension is nothing more than the last characters after the period in the name of a file."​
the name does not have a File Extension, is that right?

No, that's the folder that the music should be in.....a file extension is 3 letters (occasionally four) and a file in that folder would look like this if it was saved as an MP3 file for example......

C:\Documents and Settings\John.JOHN-02A97BFE4D\My Documents\My Music\Michel Thomas.Mp3

OPen that folder and see if there's anything in it.....or right click on the folder, select 'properties' and see what size it is...if it's zero bytes, there's obviously nothing in it for some reason.

Did you get any odd messages about copyright protection or anything like that when you tried to rip the disc?


To change the location of where it goes to, open windows media player, click the little button along the bottom of the 'rip' tag and select 'more options'.....then on the 'rip' tag, you'll see a box near the top of that pop up window that you can use to point the ripped music into a specific location.
 
No, that's the folder that the music should be in.....a file extension is 3 letters (occasionally four) and a file in that folder would look like this if it was saved as an MP3 file for example......

C:\Documents and Settings\John.JOHN-02A97BFE4D\My Documents\My Music\Michel Thomas.Mp3

OPen that folder and see if there's anything in it.....or right click on the folder, select 'properties' and see what size it is...if it's zero bytes, there's obviously nothing in it for some reason.

Fair enough, that's the location where the other seven folders are i.e. without the additional Mp3 tagged on at the end. The actual CD recordings in this location each have .wma added, I mean they are called 05 Section 5.wma Is this what I was looking for?:blush They really are there as I can play them. (I may be confusing the terms File, Folder as well as other terms that I can't even recall just now. I think I may be drowning.)

To change the location of where it goes to, open windows media player, click the little button along the bottom of the 'rip' tag and select 'more options'.....then on the 'rip' tag, you'll see a box near the top of that pop up window that you can use to point the ripped music into a specific location.
Cheers for that too:thumb2
 
Fair enough, that's the location where the other seven folders are i.e. without the additional Mp3 tagged on at the end. The actual CD recordings in this location each have .wma added, I mean they are called 05 Section 5.wma Is this what I was looking for?:blush They really are there as I can play them. (I may be confusing the terms File, Folder as well as other terms that I can't even recall just now. I think I may be drowning.)

Yes, that's exactly what you're looking for......

There's a very very good chance that what Steve said above is correct.....If you did one cd and it had a track called "05 Section 5.wma" then you ripped another into the same folder that was called the same, it would over write the first one (although you should get a message saying something like 'already exists, do you want to over write/replace/exit'

The way around it is to create another folder and try again with the 'missing' disc.....go to the folder "C:\Documents and Settings\John.JOHN-02A97BFE4D\My Documents\My Music\Michel Thomas" and right click in the window...select 'NEW' and then 'FOLDER' and call that whatever you want (Michael Thomas French 2 for example)

Then go back to windows media and put the missing disc in, hit rip options and browse to the folder you've just made....."C:\Documents and Settings\John.JOHN-02A97BFE4D\My Documents\My Music\Michel Thomas\Michael Thomas French 2", then rip the cd as before....

You may need to do some re-organising in the end to tidy it all up and so you don't have files deeply embedded several folders down, but that's easy and at least it'll all be on there :)
 


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