Ok - this has defeated me - how do you remove the throttle cable nipple from the grip end of a R1200GS?? (Step 3 of STL's instructions).
Quick Action Throttle
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snerkler
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Hmmm, sounds like I'm going to have fun when mine arrives 
bose
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standard throttle
I think il put up with my wrist ache ,dosnt sound to clever that exspensive bit of plastic,but thankyou ginepigs for saving me £50 ,mines going to stay as bmw made it 
I think il put up with my wrist ache ,dosnt sound to clever that exspensive bit of plastic,but thankyou ginepigs for saving me £50 ,mines going to stay as bmw made it I used some thin nose pliers to lift the cable a few mm up from the nipple, I know some poeple recomend a small screwdriver but I find pliers easier.
I did look to see if it was easy to jam the throttle open at the other end to give lots of slack, but it looked like it would have required a fair bit of work.
After a spin to calm down a bit I looked at my parts again, you can see where towards the "front" the cable groove has been rubbed where it is all too tight.
Compared to the Boxer-Design item mine protrudes forwards towards the front of the throttle tube a lot more and it is here that it obviously rubs.
If I cannot get any cash back I may try cutting a few mm of the front and filing it down a shade to see if I can get it to fit, maybe it is just down to production tolerances
From my experience I would recomend the Boxer-Design one, they both work the same just by fitting over the throttle tube to make a larger radius, but I think this one is just a bit too large, it was also a tight fit to get clipped in and a bit of a wrestle to remove when I had to take it back off.
I stillthink it is a good dea, on my ride I did notice how uncomfortable it is to get the last 20-30% of throttle.
Rasher, id ask if they have sent you the correct parts!! mine for my 2010 gs was fine, the previous one for my k12r was as you suggested tight i did file the end and made a little grove for the cable to sit in and all was well, its a shame this mod has worked against you rather than with you as its good when its right, dont give up .
Dave
Dave
my boxerdesign one is on now. Easy to fit once i'd worked out how to release the throttlecable from the grip end 
I took it for a quick spin. The immediate difference is that there is less free play in the cable so there's immediately a feeling of more throttle response because of that. Also you end up accelerating slightly faster for less effort because of the mod. Not a huge difference but it makes the bike feel a little more lively. Nice for overtakes.
No compromise for slow speed work - still very easy. In fact I'd say I prefer it slightly because the hand to acceleration connection is immediate.
Track days later this year where I think it will come into its own.
Yes it's way too expensive but I like it.
I took it for a quick spin. The immediate difference is that there is less free play in the cable so there's immediately a feeling of more throttle response because of that. Also you end up accelerating slightly faster for less effort because of the mod. Not a huge difference but it makes the bike feel a little more lively. Nice for overtakes.
No compromise for slow speed work - still very easy. In fact I'd say I prefer it slightly because the hand to acceleration connection is immediate.
Track days later this year where I think it will come into its own.
Yes it's way too expensive but I like it.
For those that want to achieve this mod cheaper I would recomend just using the adjusters to remove this slack, cost = £0.00 a £70 saving
snerkler
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I used some thin nose pliers to lift the cable a few mm up from the nipple, I know some poeple recomend a small screwdriver but I find pliers easier.
I did look to see if it was easy to jam the throttle open at the other end to give lots of slack, but it looked like it would have required a fair bit of work.
After a spin to calm down a bit I looked at my parts again, you can see where towards the "front" the cable groove has been rubbed where it is all too tight.
Compared to the Boxer-Design item mine protrudes forwards towards the front of the throttle tube a lot more and it is here that it obviously rubs.
If I cannot get any cash back I may try cutting a few mm of the front and filing it down a shade to see if I can get it to fit, maybe it is just down to production tolerances
From my experience I would recomend the Boxer-Design one, they both work the same just by fitting over the throttle tube to make a larger radius, but I think this one is just a bit too large, it was also a tight fit to get clipped in and a bit of a wrestle to remove when I had to take it back off.
I stillthink it is a good dea, on my ride I did notice how uncomfortable it is to get the last 20-30% of throttle.
Oh yeah, you didn't get the boxer design one did you. I'm a bit more hopeful for mine now
I have had a few E-Bay mails go back and forth, but we are both having to use translation websites so not getting very far.
He reckons they have sold thousands and they have all fitted, but mine was tight even before I put the casing back on, with the casing off it was OK until about half throttle at which point it rubbed a bit, but as soon as you screw the casing back on you cannot move the throttle at all.
Latest mail stated
I have no idea what this means, what photo it relates to and I cannot see any blue parts to remove - in fact I cannot see how anything else could be removed as we are only dealing with the throttle tube
Hopefully he will give up soon and offer a refund so I can buy the Boxer-Design item instead.
He reckons they have sold thousands and they have all fitted, but mine was tight even before I put the casing back on, with the casing off it was OK until about half throttle at which point it rubbed a bit, but as soon as you screw the casing back on you cannot move the throttle at all.
Latest mail stated
I have no idea what this means, what photo it relates to and I cannot see any blue parts to remove - in fact I cannot see how anything else could be removed as we are only dealing with the throttle tube
Hopefully he will give up soon and offer a refund so I can buy the Boxer-Design item instead.
snerkler
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You should always have a tiny amount of free play, but this can be altered by loosening/tightening the throttle cable
I'm glad to hear this as have been concerned about how it would affect slow riding, especially stood up
There is a tiny amount of freeplay but the throttle cable adjuster is maxed out now.
Well this is where we seem to be going wrong, they are telling me there is a blue nipple on the throttle assy that needs removing and in the instructions there is a picture of a knife to a throttle tube. Also the pictures / instructions do not show a GS
What is odd is that Ding-Dong fitted his OK without cutting.
I cannot see any blue nipple on the throttle, although I have not managed to get the entire throttle tube loose as the front cover appears to be attached to all the switchgear and a bastard to remove.
Also they claim a 10 minute fit for GS but the pictures show them completely removing the throttle tube assy to cut it up - and I cannot see how you could strip off all the handlebar gubbins / switchgear / gaurds / cabling and re-assemble in that time
I think I want to get a refund and fit the Boxer-Design one, it will be worth the extra £20 not to have this hassle, if it was a £10 part I would not mind throwing it away or trying to mod it to fit, but £50 for something that does not work is a bit steep.
snerkler
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Well this is where we seem to be going wrong, they are telling me there is a blue nipple on the throttle assy that needs removing and in the instructions there is a picture of a knife to a throttle tube. Also the pictures / instructions do not show a GS
What is odd is that Ding-Dong fitted his OK without cutting.
I cannot see any blue nipple on the throttle, although I have not managed to get the entire throttle tube loose as the front cover appears to be attached to all the switchgear and a bastard to remove.
Also they claim a 10 minute fit for GS but the pictures show them completely removing the throttle tube assy to cut it up - and I cannot see how you could strip off all the handlebar gubbins / switchgear / gaurds / cabling and re-assemble in that time
I think I want to get a refund and fit the Boxer-Design one, it will be worth the extra £20 not to have this hassle, if it was a £10 part I would not mind throwing it away or trying to mod it to fit, but £50 for something that does not work is a bit steep.
To be honest that's why I paid extra for the boxer design one as I don't want to start cutting bits?
Im puzzled as to why it does not fit, did you buy all the parts! ie the throttle clip(piece of plastic cam) the throttle housing / the screw and washer if so this is how it should look.
The clip installed under the throttle cable. (SIDE VIEW)
(FRONT VIEW)
The throttle housing that came with the kit with the filed mod done by supplier.
Throttle housing fitted screw in until it touches the rubber washer job done.
if your using your existing throttle housing and have not filed and trim'd the end as per the pic than when you refit this would prevent the throttle turning!!
The clip installed under the throttle cable. (SIDE VIEW)
(FRONT VIEW)
The throttle housing that came with the kit with the filed mod done by supplier.
Throttle housing fitted screw in until it touches the rubber washer job done.
if your using your existing throttle housing and have not filed and trim'd the end as per the pic than when you refit this would prevent the throttle turning!!
The slow action fitting of a quick action throttle.....
MacFarlane
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The slow action fitting of a quick action throttle.....
Worth the wait, but what's next though
Yep, fitted as per picture with the modified housing, but as soon as you screw the housing on it jams solid.
I assume this is the Boxer-Design one in the picture, unfortunately I did not realise cutting was required for the one I bought or I would not have ordered it.
They reckon there is a blue nipple that needs cutting off, but even with throttle in fully open position with cable removed I cannot see this, it could be further around the back, but then it should not get in the way.
I dont want to remove the brake levers, hand gaurds switch gear
just to get the throttle tube off as I don't think it would make any difference even if I do find the mysterious nipple.
This is a picture of the throttle in the fully open position, no sign of any nipple that could get in the way, I think the manufacture of the part may just be innacurate, perhaps a bit of filing would help, but I would rather get my £50 back and buy one that will work properly out of the box.
I assume this is the Boxer-Design one in the picture, unfortunately I did not realise cutting was required for the one I bought or I would not have ordered it.
They reckon there is a blue nipple that needs cutting off, but even with throttle in fully open position with cable removed I cannot see this, it could be further around the back, but then it should not get in the way.
I dont want to remove the brake levers, hand gaurds switch gear
just to get the throttle tube off as I don't think it would make any difference even if I do find the mysterious nipple.This is a picture of the throttle in the fully open position, no sign of any nipple that could get in the way, I think the manufacture of the part may just be innacurate, perhaps a bit of filing would help, but I would rather get my £50 back and buy one that will work properly out of the box.
snerkler
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Im puzzled as to why it does not fit, did you buy all the parts! ie the throttle clip(piece of plastic cam) the throttle housing / the screw and washer if so this is how it should look.
The clip installed under the throttle cable. (SIDE VIEW)
(FRONT VIEW)
The throttle housing that came with the kit with the filed mod done by supplier.
Throttle housing fitted screw in until it touches the rubber washer job done.
if your using your existing throttle housing and have not filed and trim'd the end as per the pic than when you refit this would prevent the throttle turning!!
I must say I do like the fact that you can put the original housing back on this throttle adapter, albeit with a bit of tweaking. From the pictures the new housing from boxer design looks a bit naff.
Can you modify the original housing to fit after fitting the boxer design quick action throttle adapter?
Looks a right ball-ache
Looks a right ball-ache
Actually it is not, when you know how.
With this design you do have to cut of a little "nipple", however it is not blue and is much close to the place where the cable clips in than I thought.
They sent me a close up piccy with the exact spot marked, the web instructions are not in good English and do not us a GS which did not help, nor did a previous post from someone saying nothing needs to be cut (It turns out they were refering to a different product!)
Just behind the recess where the plastic part clips in is a small nipple the same colour as the rest of the throttle assy (part of the moulding) although it looks like the QAT bit is happy with this there it is obviously not.
30 seconds removing this part (which looks like it will not do any harm if you return to standard) and the thing fitted and works OK.
It does feel ever so slightly stiff on the last few mm as if something may be a shade tight, but maybe it was like that before? (it could just be the feel of the throttle bodies as they hit the stop)
I am not certain as I am now being very paranoid about the whole thing, will see how it is after a good ride.
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