Quick Action Throttle

[Wapping]

Just behind the recess where the plastic part clips in is a small nipple the same colour as the rest of the throttle assy (part of the moulding) although it looks like the QAT bit is happy with this there it is obviously not.
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Was that lifted straight from the original instructions?

 

[JohnnyBoxer]

Actually it is not, when you know how.

With this design you do have to cut of a little "nipple", however it is not blue and is much close to the place where the cable clips in than I thought.

They sent me a close up piccy with the exact spot marked, the web instructions are not in good English and do not us a GS which did not help, nor did a previous post from someone saying nothing needs to be cut (It turns out they were refering to a different product!)

Just behind the recess where the plastic part clips in is a small nipple the same colour as the rest of the throttle assy (part of the moulding) although it looks like the QAT bit is happy with this there it is obviously not.

30 seconds removing this part (which looks like it will not do any harm if you return to standard) and the thing fitted and works OK.

It does feel ever so slightly stiff on the last few mm as if something may be a shade tight, but maybe it was like that before? (it could just be the feel of the throttle bodies as they hit the stop)

I am not certain as I am now being very paranoid about the whole thing, will see how it is after a good ride.

I stand by my original comment

It seems like a right ball-ache

Oh and you've probably invaldated your warranty in the areas connected to the throttle, heated grip and right-hand switchgear as you have tampered and deviated from the manufacturer's original specification and parts

 

[snerkler]

Actually it is not, when you know how.

With this design you do have to cut of a little "nipple", however it is not blue and is much close to the place where the cable clips in than I thought.

They sent me a close up piccy with the exact spot marked, the web instructions are not in good English and do not us a GS which did not help, nor did a previous post from someone saying nothing needs to be cut (It turns out they were refering to a different product!)

Just behind the recess where the plastic part clips in is a small nipple the same colour as the rest of the throttle assy (part of the moulding) although it looks like the QAT bit is happy with this there it is obviously not.

30 seconds removing this part (which looks like it will not do any harm if you return to standard) and the thing fitted and works OK.

It does feel ever so slightly stiff on the last few mm as if something may be a shade tight, but maybe it was like that before? (it could just be the feel of the throttle bodies as they hit the stop)

I am not certain as I am now being very paranoid about the whole thing, will see how it is after a good ride.

What I don't get with the one you've ordered is why make it so
Something needs cutting off, why not just make it without that bit. Weird

 

[Rasher]

What I don't get with the one you've ordered is why make it so
Something needs cutting off, why not just make it without that bit. Weird

I am guessing it makes their mould simpler, otherwise it would need another small cutout in the "thingy"

 

[Giles]

 

[Rasher]

Went for a spin today, it was all two up and mainly on narrow lanes with the occasional B-Road, definately seems to make a difference, full throttle is still a bit of a stretch, but much better than the double grab affair it used to be.

Seemed to make the bike seem a shade gruntier, as you get a bit more drive from the same amount of wrist movement, overall I reckon it is worth the cash and a decent mod.

Next up Wilburs Suspension

 

[DING-DONG]

Seemed to make the bike seem a shade gruntier, as you get a bit more drive from the same amount of wrist movement, overall I reckon it is worth the cash and a decent mod.

Your like a woman on the BLOB all that ranting for nothing



Glad ya sorted

 

[snerkler]

Went for a spin today, it was all two up and mainly on narrow lanes with the occasional B-Road, definately seems to make a difference, full throttle is still a bit of a stretch, but much better than the double grab affair it used to be.

Seemed to make the bike seem a shade gruntier, as you get a bit more drive from the same amount of wrist movement, overall I reckon it is worth the cash and a decent mod.

Next up Wilburs Suspension

Glad youre sorted. I'm still waiting for mine to arrive, boxer design assure me it will be with me this week

Does anyone know for sure if it will affect warranty as there seems to be conflicting opinions?

 

[Rasher]

Doesn't everything, a mate tried claiming something or other on his GTR and when the dealer sent pictures to Kawasaki they commented it "does not look very clean", he duly went mental and got it sorted but WTF!

I think they would have to prove your mod caused the problem you were claiming against and I cannot see a reduction of 15 degrees of throttle movement makes any odds to anything (other than your wrists) it is just a bit of plastic that makes the throttle tube a larger diameter - I suppose if the cable snapped they could claim this item contributed somehow.

Don't forget it can be removed very quickly so you could always just take it out if going down to the dealer to make a claim, and from what I keep getting told here is that many dealers really are on your side.

Which reminds me I noticed my horn stopped working today (or may have never worked, not sure I have ever used it before) I hope this is not gonna get blamed on my throttle mod - would fix it myself except you need a degree in micro-electronics to carry out such work, the Mrs suggested it could be a fuse - bless.

 

[DING-DONG]

snerkler, regarding warranty the way i see things if the mod has not caused the problem they will honour the warranty, in my case my bike is very modded however because im very mechanically minded and im fussy i take alot more pride than a tech would i can put my bike back to totally stock in a very short time if needed and tbh the only mods i would need to change would be exhaust and pc5 if i had engine issue and it was related to these items however i doubt it the A/F is 100% now it was awful in stock, the 17'' wheels was passed by motorrad as a conversion 1st done by pidcocks, and it does help if you have a good relationship with your dealer, one of my previous bikes was a k12r carbon wheels pc3 fully akro it was well tricked up and i had a gearbox issue at 90mph it would jump out of gear, the bike was a 2 months out of warranty but bm as a gesture of goodwill put new gearbox and clutch basket FOC regardless of mods.

I will also back the claim when you make a warranty claim and they take pics motorrad look to see if the bike is looked after, i know this as i had a warranty corrosion issue on the engine casings on my f800gs and i was told they look at condition the bike is in, obviously my bike was mint and bmw put a brand new engine in the bike.

 

[snerkler]

Well I've still not received mine yet despite having ordered it on the 24th Feb
Emailed Boxer-design at the end of last week and they said it should arrive at the beginning of this week, and there's still no bloody sign of it. Emailed them again and awaiting a response.

 

[snerkler]

So my adapter's finally arrived, and I've paid £60 (inc postage) for the cheapest, crappest bit of plastic

Let's just pray it works how I hope it will, then it should be £60 well spent, kind of.

Does anyone who's fitted this know what alterations you'd need to do on the original housing to fit post adapter fitting?

 

[snerkler]

Well I fitted mine, kind of. I've only managed to snap the thin arm/clip off the housing

The whole process took 18 minutes, including removing the extended handguards. I couldn't get the long this clip/arm into the existing bit of the housing. No matter how much I tried it just wouldn't line up. When I tried to force it it just snapped

I'm now wondering if they'd sent the wrong part? So I now have 4 options.
1) Contact them and say the part didn't fit and ask for a new one. If they say it was the right one and I was being a numpty I may have to
2)Order a new casing (at a cost of 50 Euro inc postage ) and have a bit more patience fitting it.
3) Tape it up (which will look a pig), or glue it with some non-permanent glue (if there is such a thing? I'm assuming thread lock won't be OK to use on plastics?)
4) Take it off completely and go back to the original and try not to think about the £60 I've wasted

Also, the bit of plastic that the cable sits into had tool marks on it, making the edges where the cable sit slightly rough, will this cause excess wear on the cable?

One other question for those who have fitted it. Could you get the screw back in the housing when you'd finished? (this one?

I'm worried that there is a hole there now where rain and crud could get in there and foul up the throttle cable, or cause it to rust. What's the best way to plug it up and look nice cosmetically?

 

[snerkler]

Wow, Boxer-Design have given me a full refund Very good customer service I have to say
Now do I re-order it, or bodge the one I have? To help me decide can anyone shed some advice on whether or not the slightly rough adapter edges will cause excess wear on the throttle cable? Having looked at it I would'nt have thought so as the cable doesn't actually slide along the adapter, they move in unison.

 

[Rasher]

I would have thought the rough plastic edges would wear down long before the metal cable

The one like mine is easy enough to fit, once you know about the nipple to cut off.

Worth the effort IMHO

 

[snerkler]

I would have thought the rough plastic edges would wear down long before the metal cable

The one like mine is easy enough to fit, once you know about the nipple to cut off.

Worth the effort IMHO

I'm yet to try mine, will be on the bike tomorrow so hopefully it will have all been worth while. A bit of black gaffer tape's done the trick where I've broken the clip, and doesn't look that much worse than the finish of the new cover

 

[snerkler]

So been out on the bike to try out the throttle adapter. I didn't notice a 'huge' difference straight away (ie under acceleration when I first set off), but after 20 mins I found it a revelation. The effects are subtle, but all round make a big improvement IMO. It's much more comfortable to cruise at motorway speeds, and no longer have to bend my wrist to extremes or change grip. It's better for powering out of corners, and much much better for overtakes. I think IRS made it smoother as well somehow
The downsides are it looks a bit naff (especially since I broke my clip and now have gaffer tape on it ), and I'm having to keep an eye on the speedo much more as you're going faster without realising it
So is it worth £60? Well not for the 2 bits of crappy plastic you get, they don't even look like theyre worth a fiver. But for the transformation of the bike it's deffo worth it, worth double IMO. And to make things even better I got a full refund so it's cost me nowt The only question now is do I buy a new case at £40 Inc delivery, or put up with a bit of gaffer tape

 

[Giles]

 

[snerkler]

I don't get it?

 

[Rasher]

Is that the next generation FD prototype being built, looks quite solid.