R1200GS R/H Cylinder failure

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Not wishing to start a cat fight...
Like I said:
That it my opinion. If you don't like it, feel free to disagree and discuss the reasons for doing so.

By doing just that instead of asking childish questions you won't get a cat fight. It's your opinion and you are entitled to it. :thumb2


The reason I believe "not fit for purpose" is not relevant is that IMO for that to be the case it has to be pretty much incapable of ever going about it's purpose.
(Edit: From here http://www.berr.gov.uk/whatwedo/consumers/fact-sheets/page38311.html "If goods do not conform to contract at the time of sale, purchasers can request their money back "within a reasonable time". (This is not defined and will depend on circumstances)" - the bike DID conform to contract at time of sale, and for a further 36 months).
i.e. you buy a bike and it keeps cutting out pretty much from word go. You can't possibly ride it safely or reliably. That is unfit for purpose.

To buy a bike and happily spend 3 years putting 10k miles on it is using it (admittedly not a lot) for the purpose it was intended for quite some time.
It's now simply broken.
I'm not saying there isn't an issue or that it doesn't require BMW to take some responsibility, but to argue NFFP I believe you would be onto a loser.

But don't take my word for it, ask a solicitor.

Just don't ask me irrelevant and stupid questions. ;)
 
A suggestion. Although I'm new to BMWs, it seems as if it's only the RH cylinder that fails.

When the bike is on the side stand, it leans to the LEFT. Could it be, if the bike is left ticking over on the sidestand, that the RHS cylinder gets starved of oil???

This obviously wouldn't happen whilst riding, due to the centrugal effect on the oil.......

You may all know (I :rtfm) that BMW reccomend that you start the bike, then ride it STRAIGHT away, not warming it up first....

Mine lives on the center stand, when parked for long periods.
 
A suggestion. Although I'm new to BMWs, it seems as if it's only the RH cylinder that fails.

When the bike is on the side stand, it leans to the LEFT. Could it be, if the bike is left ticking over on the sidestand, that the RHS cylinder gets starved of oil???

This obviously wouldn't happen whilst riding, due to the centrugal effect on the oil.......

You may all know (I :rtfm) that BMW reccomend that you start the bike, then ride it STRAIGHT away, not warming it up first....

Mine lives on the center stand, when parked for long periods.

I dont think the HP2 has a centre stand ???
 
No worries Miff. No-one is judging.

Its just that the "leaving your bike its side stand is bad" bolx comes up a lot...
 
Oops. Obviously I meant Centrifugal.

Damned sausage fingers... Maybe it's the first sign of....

Don't worry it wasn't just the spelling, just wondering about centrifugal effect on the oil theory:D
 
Don't worry it wasn't just the spelling, just wondering about centrifugal effect on the oil theory:D


Is that the one where the oil runs anticlockwise out of the drain plug in the northern hemisphere, but clockwise in the southern hemisphere? I guess on the equator the way the oil drains could provide enough scope for an entirely original and facinating oil related thread?

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Don't worry it wasn't just the spelling, just wondering about centrifugal effect on the oil theory:D


When the bike's at a standstill, the oil will drain the the left hand side of the engine. Even with the oil pump pumping, there will be more oil in the left.

When you are riding, the centrifugal effect, should keep the oil level level. Same amount of oil in both sides of the engine.

A bit like when you was a kid, and filled a bucket of water, then span it up and over, and the water stayed in.


The above is only my opinion, and based on nothing more than pure conjecture, guess work, and common sense.


OR, there's simply a problem with the No2 pot.... A bit like ZZR1100s problem with No3 cylinder.....
 

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