Hi All, my brand new R1300GS, riding along, dual carriageway @ 70mph !!!, for no apparent reason, revs drop off, screen (on the sports screen) flashes red for 5 secs, then the revs pick back up and the DTC indicator blocks on the lhs of the dash is full. Back to the main dealer twice for a factory re-set, but still happening, they have now asked BMW for help, anyone else experience this ?
R1300gs DTC fault
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is this when using cruise control ? its not the radar seeing traffic and managing the gap ? it sets as default, far too big a gap - 4 second rule - you have to close it down in menus every time at key on, vs old world cruise it can just be a pain in the arse
if not that perhaps front collision warning - turn it off in menus - or set to nag the least, which I think it remembers all the time - only use when falling asleep and too stupid to park up ?
maybe double check it knows which side of the road you are riding on (likely hidden in menus), radar beam on most systems aims to match LHD or RHD and can need a nudge to behave - on the early BM car systems (which is what I think the bikes use) it used to say check regularly where its pointing - these days all dealer calibration and money
last guess - might be a conflict in latest software with rider modes misbehaving and ABS module update - which dealer won't know about and the fix isn't out yet
support.bmw-motorrad.com
The front collision warning (FCW) warns of obstacles, prevents collisions and thus intervenes to support the braking process.
The lane change warning (SWW) monitors neighbouring driving lanes, supports the view in the rear-view mirror and contributes to a better overview when changing lanes. In a critical driving situation before a lane change, a signal is sent to the rider, e.g. if a vehicle is approaching from behind from the blind spot.
You should note the following when using the radar-based assistance systems:
if not that perhaps front collision warning - turn it off in menus - or set to nag the least, which I think it remembers all the time - only use when falling asleep and too stupid to park up ?
maybe double check it knows which side of the road you are riding on (likely hidden in menus), radar beam on most systems aims to match LHD or RHD and can need a nudge to behave - on the early BM car systems (which is what I think the bikes use) it used to say check regularly where its pointing - these days all dealer calibration and money
last guess - might be a conflict in latest software with rider modes misbehaving and ABS module update - which dealer won't know about and the fix isn't out yet
BMW Motorrad
support.bmw-motorrad.com
The front collision warning (FCW) warns of obstacles, prevents collisions and thus intervenes to support the braking process.
The lane change warning (SWW) monitors neighbouring driving lanes, supports the view in the rear-view mirror and contributes to a better overview when changing lanes. In a critical driving situation before a lane change, a signal is sent to the rider, e.g. if a vehicle is approaching from behind from the blind spot.
You should note the following when using the radar-based assistance systems:
- The rider assistance systems are only there to support you, so you should not rely completely on the systems
- It may be that the ACC or FCW "loses" objects that have already been recognised when you enter a bend, for example. In this case, your vehicle will accelerate back to the set speed
- The radar-based functions only recognise moving vehicles, not stationary vehicles, animals or pedestrians. Cyclists cannot be reliably recognised either. Object detection may be limited, particularly on winding or uneven roads, as well as in the case of unsteady driving behaviour, which means that corresponding warnings may only appear with a delay
- If you are travelling fast, ACC cannot brake your R 1300 GS sufficiently in bends. Therefore, brake yourself before bends at high speed to prevent an accident
- If you have activated the cruise control (DCC), the performance of ACC is reduced, which means that the Distance Control to vehicles in front does not work
- The necessary safety distance does not automatically adapt to the corresponding weather conditions. Therefore, adjust the safety distance yourself if the weather requires it
- ACC works best when you are riding calmly, by riding as centrally as possible in the path of the vehicle in front. During an overtaking manoeuvre, you should clearly change lanes and pull in behind the vehicle in front as early as possible so that ACC has time to select an object
- ACC has 2 characteristics: "comfortable" and "dynamic", which influence the acceleration and deceleration behaviour
- The front collision warning (FCW) can only be activated in ECO, RAIN, ROAD and DYNAMIC modes. Find out more about the different riding modes of the R 1300 GS here
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Radar cruise control just works like ordinary cruise control if there's a big gap it just goes to your max set cruise speed .is this when using cruise control ? its not the radar seeing traffic and managing the gap ? it sets as default, far too big a gap - 4 second rule - you have to close it down in menus every time at key on, vs old world cruise it can just be a pain in the arse
if not that perhaps front collision warning - turn it off in menus - or set to nag the least, which I think it remembers all the time - only use when falling asleep and too stupid to park up ?
maybe double check it knows which side of the road you are riding on (likely hidden in menus), radar beam on most systems aims to match LHD or RHD and can need a nudge to behave - on the early BM car systems (which is what I think the bikes use) it used to say check regularly where its pointing - these days all dealer calibration and money
last guess - might be a conflict in latest software with rider modes misbehaving and ABS module update - which dealer won't know about and the fix isn't out yet
BMW Motorrad
The front collision warning (FCW) warns of obstacles, prevents collisions and thus intervenes to support the braking process.
The lane change warning (SWW) monitors neighbouring driving lanes, supports the view in the rear-view mirror and contributes to a better overview when changing lanes. In a critical driving situation before a lane change, a signal is sent to the rider, e.g. if a vehicle is approaching from behind from the blind spot.
You should note the following when using the radar-based assistance systems:
- The rider assistance systems are only there to support you, so you should not rely completely on the systems
- It may be that the ACC or FCW "loses" objects that have already been recognised when you enter a bend, for example. In this case, your vehicle will accelerate back to the set speed
- The radar-based functions only recognise moving vehicles, not stationary vehicles, animals or pedestrians. Cyclists cannot be reliably recognised either. Object detection may be limited, particularly on winding or uneven roads, as well as in the case of unsteady driving behaviour, which means that corresponding warnings may only appear with a delay
- If you are travelling fast, ACC cannot brake your R 1300 GS sufficiently in bends. Therefore, brake yourself before bends at high speed to prevent an accident
- If you have activated the cruise control (DCC), the performance of ACC is reduced, which means that the Distance Control to vehicles in front does not work
- The necessary safety distance does not automatically adapt to the corresponding weather conditions. Therefore, adjust the safety distance yourself if the weather requires it
- ACC works best when you are riding calmly, by riding as centrally as possible in the path of the vehicle in front. During an overtaking manoeuvre, you should clearly change lanes and pull in behind the vehicle in front as early as possible so that ACC has time to select an object
- ACC has 2 characteristics: "comfortable" and "dynamic", which influence the acceleration and deceleration behaviour
- The front collision warning (FCW) can only be activated in ECO, RAIN, ROAD and DYNAMIC modes. Find out more about the different riding modes of the R 1300 GS here
Sorry but can't be bothered to read the rest of your guesses.
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Let’s hope so
Hey thank you so much for a full reply…no, never yet in cruise control, and I didn’t opt for the radar version, generally just on picking up the revs from a roundabout, overtaking etc, no record of a fault, it’s like the bike genuinely believes I need the DTC at that point even though I am upright pulling awayis this when using cruise control ? its not the radar seeing traffic and managing the gap ? it sets as default, far too big a gap - 4 second rule - you have to close it down in menus every time at key on, vs old world cruise it can just be a pain in the arse
if not that perhaps front collision warning - turn it off in menus - or set to nag the least, which I think it remembers all the time - only use when falling asleep and too stupid to park up ?
maybe double check it knows which side of the road you are riding on (likely hidden in menus), radar beam on most systems aims to match LHD or RHD and can need a nudge to behave - on the early BM car systems (which is what I think the bikes use) it used to say check regularly where its pointing - these days all dealer calibration and money
last guess - might be a conflict in latest software with rider modes misbehaving and ABS module update - which dealer won't know about and the fix isn't out yet
BMW Motorrad
The front collision warning (FCW) warns of obstacles, prevents collisions and thus intervenes to support the braking process.
The lane change warning (SWW) monitors neighbouring driving lanes, supports the view in the rear-view mirror and contributes to a better overview when changing lanes. In a critical driving situation before a lane change, a signal is sent to the rider, e.g. if a vehicle is approaching from behind from the blind spot.
You should note the following when using the radar-based assistance systems:
- The rider assistance systems are only there to support you, so you should not rely completely on the systems
- It may be that the ACC or FCW "loses" objects that have already been recognised when you enter a bend, for example. In this case, your vehicle will accelerate back to the set speed
- The radar-based functions only recognise moving vehicles, not stationary vehicles, animals or pedestrians. Cyclists cannot be reliably recognised either. Object detection may be limited, particularly on winding or uneven roads, as well as in the case of unsteady driving behaviour, which means that corresponding warnings may only appear with a delay
- If you are travelling fast, ACC cannot brake your R 1300 GS sufficiently in bends. Therefore, brake yourself before bends at high speed to prevent an accident
- If you have activated the cruise control (DCC), the performance of ACC is reduced, which means that the Distance Control to vehicles in front does not work
- The necessary safety distance does not automatically adapt to the corresponding weather conditions. Therefore, adjust the safety distance yourself if the weather requires it
- ACC works best when you are riding calmly, by riding as centrally as possible in the path of the vehicle in front. During an overtaking manoeuvre, you should clearly change lanes and pull in behind the vehicle in front as early as possible so that ACC has time to select an object
- ACC has 2 characteristics: "comfortable" and "dynamic", which influence the acceleration and deceleration behaviour
- The front collision warning (FCW) can only be activated in ECO, RAIN, ROAD and DYNAMIC modes. Find out more about the different riding modes of the R 1300 GS here
You originally said it was when you were doing 70mph ?? , now it's when you are leaving a roundabout or overtaking??.Hey thank you so much for a full reply…no, never yet in cruise control, and I didn’t opt for the radar version, generally just on picking up the revs from a roundabout, overtaking etc, no record of a fault, it’s like the bike genuinely believes I need the DTC at that point even though I am upright pulling away
Is it just DTC doing what it's supposed to do. You give it a fistfull of throttle and back wheel looses traction.
Have you moved anything under the seat? perhaps to fit a power distribution module? DAMHIK.
.... so no radar, no radar rider assist options
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if std cruise was set - would revs still drop ?
might sound strange but that would help clarify if the grip was sliding around in your hand without you realising
if its under acceleration and you have rider modes in cabbage settings it might be intervention based on low grip levels ?
other than that sounds like a ABS sensor issue - its difficult to pick up as ABS expect wheels to travel at different rates if braking, as one might have grip when the other doesn't etc. And these days rider modes and leany over ABS and traction start to feed in their twopenny worth adding more noise
re this comment
if std cruise was set - would revs still drop ?
might sound strange but that would help clarify if the grip was sliding around in your hand without you realising
if its under acceleration and you have rider modes in cabbage settings it might be intervention based on low grip levels ?
other than that sounds like a ABS sensor issue - its difficult to pick up as ABS expect wheels to travel at different rates if braking, as one might have grip when the other doesn't etc. And these days rider modes and leany over ABS and traction start to feed in their twopenny worth adding more noise
Another fantasy thread, filled full of bollocks ….
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