r80gs 1987 oil filter question

[carrickleagh]

I am getting this bike which I have just bought ready for the road after 25 years of storage. I took the oil filter out and there was no metal shim/gasket between the o ring and the outer cover. The replacement filter ordered from motorworks came with an o ring, paper gasket AND metal shim. It is unclear to me whether I should use the shim or not. Help please!

 

[Deleted account 111026]

This will hopefully explain everything.
http://www.largiader.com/tech/filters/

 

[Elvisto]

Put the metal shim in first, then the "O" ring.

 

[carrickleagh]

thankyou

I thank you both for that, very useful, which for me is what this site is all about.

 

[BillN]

I always thought that it was to do with

Bike with Oil Cooler versus Bike with no Oil Cooler

Largiader goes into it in some detail "The $2,000" O ring - and the US have "gone to town" on the issue

I have never seen or heard of a problem in the UK

But a lot say - "put back what you took out" and you should be OK

 

[(RIP) Proff]

I always thought that it was to do with

Bike with Oil Cooler versus Bike with no Oil Cooler

Largiader goes into it in some detail "The $2,000" O ring - and the US have "gone to town" on the issue

I have never seen or heard of a problem in the UK

But a lot say - "put back what you took out" and you should be OK

You have obviously never read about Pastymans experience

The oil filter fitting measurements are ULTRA-CRITICAL !!!

 

[Deleted account 111026]

Well said Proff, you don't want to duplicate the last owner's errors.

 

[Beemerboff]

The problem some are having is that the canister which surrounds the filter is moving inwards, and the O ring is not sufficiently compressed. If it moves far enough you have little, if any, oil pressure.
It is a simple matter to measure the setback and the 0 ring thickness and shim accordingly

Antons site explains the problem, and the solution, and if anyone is unwilling to read it, or has read it and dont understand it, it is probably better if they refrain from giving others advice.
When I bought my R100 GS it had been serviced 300 km before by the states only BMW dealer.
I like to give anything I buy a full service right away and luckily made no exception this time .
There were no shims and a gasket and the O ring had so much space it actually had a twist in it.
It took three shims and the removal of the gasket to get less than 1mm compression on it.
One good long hot run and that engine would have been toast, so the advice to put back what I found would have been a disaster.