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Mutley1150 said:That's cos you didn't come to the Wobble yer cahnt
Must I make this annual event then just to see you on a bike.....queenboy
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Rallye 2 Pro Vs Hein Gericke
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Must I make this annual event then just to see you on a bike.....queenboy
?stevieg
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rallye 2 pro suit
The suit fits perfectly........if yours doesnt you need to join a gym and get some sort of shape, and no i dont mean huge muscles......
The suit fits perfectly........if yours doesnt you need to join a gym and get some sort of shape, and no i dont mean huge muscles......
Dale
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James Burton said:This is what iv'e done to my R2 PRO .
Removed bladder holder .
Cut of belt .
Re-attached belt to waist .
With the buckle at the rear .
Ummmm, I think you mean you removed the "tool bag" (the bit wot zips onto the outside of the jacket at bum height ... the bladder holder is the pocket on the inside of the fabric section of the jacket - go look for the little openings for the pipe to go through. You have to remove the waterproof liner and the mesh liner (with the body pads in it) to get to the bladder holder ... daft design imho - filling it in a hurry wont be easy
easier to carry a small camel back.As an aside, anybody have any idea why the arms are removable?? I cant for the life of me understand why you would want the arms off unless you need to go parading down the high street looking like a tosser
Dale (very happy with my Rallye 2)
Mutley
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dirtydog said:Must I make this annual event then just to see you on a bike.....queenboy
Other viewings by appointment only
NorthernBoy
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Are jackets like the HG Tuareg one designed to protect you if you slide down tarmac at speed, similar to leahers, or are they more designed for serious off road trips?
I know that there are kevlar jackets and the like, which are designed to do the same job as leathers, but is this the intention with the HG ones, too?
I don't really wear my 2 piece leathers any more (they look weird on the GS, and are too restrictive and hot off it), but I bought them for the protection. I'd hate to come off in a fabric suit and then discover that I am wearing one that was not supposed to look after you in a 90mph surf down tarmac.
I know that there are kevlar jackets and the like, which are designed to do the same job as leathers, but is this the intention with the HG ones, too?
I don't really wear my 2 piece leathers any more (they look weird on the GS, and are too restrictive and hot off it), but I bought them for the protection. I'd hate to come off in a fabric suit and then discover that I am wearing one that was not supposed to look after you in a 90mph surf down tarmac.
mumfy
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says it allMutley1150 said:What are you trying to say here? I find my Rallye II Pro to be a perfect fit
[see you next month 
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Thunder
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NorthernBoy said:
HG jackets like the Tuareg range come with armour and are designed with abrasion protection as well (ask Wizard who slid up the road in his old style Tuareg a few weeks ago).
I've had various jackets and trousers from them in both leather and textile and rate them very highly (as do a lot of the motorcycle press
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TUAREG RALLYE GTX II JACKET BLACK/BEIGE
* 100% waterproof and windproof due to Goretex membrane.
* Highly abrasion resistant Dynax textile.
* Leather reinforcements in crash zones.
* Reflective piping.
* Removable Goretex membrane lining.
* Hiprotec protectors on shoulders, elbows and back.
* SAFE stitch seams.
* 6 front pockets, 3 back pockets.
* Adjustable sleeves.
* Connecting zipper and crotch strap.
* Colour: Black/Beige.
* Sizes: S-XXXL
I'm currently debating the Pro 2 v HG thing as well, and with the current offer from HG using their voucher a complete Tuareg suit would be £319 instead of £409 which is a big factor!
araspitfire
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I picked up one of these in November.
I rode it through the winter (for fun riding, no rain). Temps down to just above freezing. Liner in, a couple layers of insulation under. Warm as toast for 45 minutes or so. I've got a Gerbing and of course I could ride forever in the cold, with the liner out...
I recently took it on a 2 week trip to Norway. Heat to start, last half coolish and rainy. I find that with a t-shirt or polypro under the jacket with no liner, and vents open, I'm cool enough for comfort. It comes off quickly enough when stopped. I never rode with it as my only outer layer for more than a few minutes in the rain, as I preffered to have an oversuit (which leaked one day). I was about to put in the trousers liner and see what getting all that fabric and leather wet would be like, but ran out of rain...
Oh.. and I also had a lowish speed OFF while riding on a slippery gravel road in the mountains. Bike ended up completely upside down (scratches on the Givi top-box to proove), me under it.. Result broken colar bone, stiff ankle. No visible damage to the jacket or trousers. I rode the rest of the trip with my broken clavicle (didn't realise it was broken =), it was easy enough to get the jacket on and off with the sore shoulder.
I rate the thing very highly. It has a lot of well though out features: Compression straps on the waist of both trousers and jacket, and on the arms. Water-proof cargo pockets (goretex lined) as well as other non wp ones. A big breast pocket with easy to open (with goves on) latch. Lots of armor.
If I had anything negative to say, it would about the tiny zippers that are used most everywhere, but they've not failed me thus far.. And the mesh inner lining on the goretex liner gets in the way when putting it on, but one learns to pull on the right parts of the thing during the act.
I'll have to wash it soon, I'll report back if I have any kind of adventure doing that....
Al...
I rode it through the winter (for fun riding, no rain). Temps down to just above freezing. Liner in, a couple layers of insulation under. Warm as toast for 45 minutes or so. I've got a Gerbing and of course I could ride forever in the cold, with the liner out...
I recently took it on a 2 week trip to Norway. Heat to start, last half coolish and rainy. I find that with a t-shirt or polypro under the jacket with no liner, and vents open, I'm cool enough for comfort. It comes off quickly enough when stopped. I never rode with it as my only outer layer for more than a few minutes in the rain, as I preffered to have an oversuit (which leaked one day). I was about to put in the trousers liner and see what getting all that fabric and leather wet would be like, but ran out of rain...
Oh.. and I also had a lowish speed OFF while riding on a slippery gravel road in the mountains. Bike ended up completely upside down (scratches on the Givi top-box to proove), me under it.. Result broken colar bone, stiff ankle. No visible damage to the jacket or trousers. I rode the rest of the trip with my broken clavicle (didn't realise it was broken =), it was easy enough to get the jacket on and off with the sore shoulder.
I rate the thing very highly. It has a lot of well though out features: Compression straps on the waist of both trousers and jacket, and on the arms. Water-proof cargo pockets (goretex lined) as well as other non wp ones. A big breast pocket with easy to open (with goves on) latch. Lots of armor.
If I had anything negative to say, it would about the tiny zippers that are used most everywhere, but they've not failed me thus far.. And the mesh inner lining on the goretex liner gets in the way when putting it on, but one learns to pull on the right parts of the thing during the act.
I'll have to wash it soon, I'll report back if I have any kind of adventure doing that....
Al...
Thunder
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araspitfire said:
Just don't put it in the washing machine, the suede on the arms may not like it!
NorthernBoy
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I guess, though, that the "trail" jacket, at £89, is definitely not good for protection on the road, and for that you need the £250- ish one?
beachman
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hein gerick
i have ridden all over the outback in my bmw savanah jacket, which is like a rally pro jacket. I have the full package ,linners etc and pants. It is fine in the summer but crap in the winter. Australia is a hot place but it does get cold and wet and the outback is 0 to 8 degrees at night. I would love to get a jacket that does the summer thing well but also has the liners to handle very cold travel....Any suggestions.
PS the bmw stuff is waterproof but you try riding in the rain when its cold and you freeze!!!!
i have ridden all over the outback in my bmw savanah jacket, which is like a rally pro jacket. I have the full package ,linners etc and pants. It is fine in the summer but crap in the winter. Australia is a hot place but it does get cold and wet and the outback is 0 to 8 degrees at night. I would love to get a jacket that does the summer thing well but also has the liners to handle very cold travel....Any suggestions.
PS the bmw stuff is waterproof but you try riding in the rain when its cold and you freeze!!!!
Nate
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I bought the H&G Cruise jacket in earlier in the year and it's blinding! Has had two trips... One in Ireland where I got pissed on (by the rain that is, not by a horse or anything 
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And another trip to Scotland where it was silly degrees (about 32 C)
Jacket did brilliantly. Keeps you cool with the vents open and you can stick the inner in and slowly cook. Haven't tried the storm collar yet...
I know it isn't as trendy as the Toureg or the Rally Pro but it's still a brilliant jacket.
I am so impressed, i bought the trousers to match at the weekend
Nate
)And another trip to Scotland where it was silly degrees (about 32 C)
Jacket did brilliantly. Keeps you cool with the vents open and you can stick the inner in and slowly cook. Haven't tried the storm collar yet...
I know it isn't as trendy as the Toureg or the Rally Pro but it's still a brilliant jacket.
I am so impressed, i bought the trousers to match at the weekend
Nate
mikestatt
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When looking for a new jacket and trousers I seriously thought hard about the Rallye 2 but in the end just could't justify the money. I bought the Hein Gericke Voyager 2 Jacket and Trousers and have been completely satisfied with both. I have ridden in the rain quite a bit and have always remained nice and dry. One advantage that alot of the Hein Gericke stuff has over the BM stuff in my opinion is that the waterproofing is not removed with the liner and living in a country where showers are likely you can stay waterproof without overheating. Having been in Hein Gericke in Brum in the last 10 days Hein Gericke seem to have a vast range to choose from so probably worth a look.
I have a HG Voyager 3 jacket which is around 4yrs/40,000mls old.It is the second one I've owned as the first was replaced under warranty because it was neither waterproof nor windproof.This one also has always leaked despite all efforts to prevent it(tech wash,nikwax etc.)
The 'waterproof' pockets never have been and now all the inside pockets and most of the lining have fallen apart.In short,a piece of crap.My Revitt waterproof trousers aren't either,although their gloves have been great.
So I gave up and bought waterproof over jacket and trousers.Yep,you've guessed it!
Having just returned from a good soaking in Norway enough is enough and I need some decent kit.I would prefer not to go the BMW route so dare I try HG again?Also what do you consider to be the usable life span of riding gear?
Tony
The 'waterproof' pockets never have been and now all the inside pockets and most of the lining have fallen apart.In short,a piece of crap.My Revitt waterproof trousers aren't either,although their gloves have been great.
So I gave up and bought waterproof over jacket and trousers.Yep,you've guessed it!
Having just returned from a good soaking in Norway enough is enough and I need some decent kit.I would prefer not to go the BMW route so dare I try HG again?Also what do you consider to be the usable life span of riding gear?
Tony
YosemitePaul
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Following the inception of this post. I read and pondered. I eventually bought the BM Rallye Pro. Partly because with the discount / sale from Mill, the price wasn't too different from that of HG.
I used it for the first time yesterday, in very hot weather and found it to be really very good. The vents kept me nice and cool.
Obviously I'm not able to comment on its waterproof capabilities (I'm only a fair weather biker anyway!!!!!!) but from first use it felt comfortabe and fitted well.
I do have HG Toureg trousers and I'm impressed with them also. So maybe when it comes down to it, there perhaps isn't much between the two brands.
Would give the Rallye Pro 10 / 10 for looks though!!!
I used it for the first time yesterday, in very hot weather and found it to be really very good. The vents kept me nice and cool.
Obviously I'm not able to comment on its waterproof capabilities (I'm only a fair weather biker anyway!!!!!!) but from first use it felt comfortabe and fitted well.
I do have HG Toureg trousers and I'm impressed with them also. So maybe when it comes down to it, there perhaps isn't much between the two brands.
Would give the Rallye Pro 10 / 10 for looks though!!!
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