Rallye Pro 2 'Prat' suit ....Review/Competitors and Buying Advice

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The first thing to admit is that I am easily seduced and led. :toungincheek So what you are about read should not lead you to think that I am recommending a similar course of action - quite the opposite as I hope my experience will hope you undecided but budding Tossers which way to go with your first grown-up kit. :rob

Amongst the praise, you will also read a lot of negative comments about the BMW Rallye Pro 2 suit - know by all and sundry as the 'Prat' suit on the basis that all those who wear it and who are not actually participating in the Dakar Rallye look like..............yes, that's right.........prats. Well 'bolleaux' says I, they're just jealous. :green gri

So here is the outfit (although not in proportion of course :mmmm):

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Now coming from the superbike world (2008 Hayabusa) and being a riding-god and dressed accordingly in bright leathers :rolleyes:, I was not too informed about textile kit. I certainly didn't fancy spending the thick end of £750 squids for some marketing man's wet dream. So I didn't. What I did instead was head off down to Heine Gerick and try on their HG Tuareg Rallye GTX III outfit. At £560, it was nearly £200 pounds cheaper than the 'Prat' suit and, as far as I could tell, as good.

Here it is:

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I wore this outfit for about a month and had nothing but compliments for it - with one exception. I am a 33" inside leg in civilian clothes. The HG Touareg trousers are 32" and they are not made in a long fitting. Now this seemed all right in the shop but with my legs bent on the bike, the trousers kept riding up my boots and sitting on top - natch that's cold and wet in the rain. So I decided that they had to go, and go they did to a very happy member of this parish. :angel

The next kit to catch my eye after much research was the Bikers Suzuka Goretex outfit at £460. Here are some piccies:


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The first thing to say about this kit is that it is very solid and amazingly well made for the money. It also has long legs and a very good fit with a number of venting options for the summer. All-in-all and if I were counting my pennies, this is where I would put them. As long as you can put up with the black, black, black........:blast Talk about sombre, you really do need to think of wearing a reflective yellow vest because this kit only comes in black, funeral tones. And so I decided to carry on looking and sold the Bikers kit to another happy Tosser. ;)

But what pops up on the For Sale section of this forum?

A modestly priced Rallye Pro 2 suit in my exact size. So I went for it. Expecting the worst, when I opened the package I found what I took to be something that had fallen off the back of a lorry, so clean and new-looking was it - seriously good value. :thumb2 And trying it on in my house showed that the sizing and the position of the adjustable armour was spot on. So today was its baptism-of-fire - a 50 mile blast around the leafy lanes of West Sussex. And bloody brilliant it was too.

In fact, so well made is this suit, so comfortable to wear and good at doing its job that I would have bought a new one immediately had I realised. The way that everything is thought through is just head-and-shoulders above the rest in my view and worth every penny. My son, who lives and works in Sydney wears a 'Prat' suit on his forays into the bush and says that the venting system is just brilliant, even in the elevated temperatures of that location.

There are others, the best being Rukka (very, very expensive in my view for a new Tosser) and Rev'it which is on a par with Heine Gerick

So here is my advice if you are thinking seriously about joining this mad world of Tossers; if you are buying your bike from a dealer on finance, why not get a 'Prat' suit added to the total. Its not going to hurt much spread over 3 years and the suit will still be worth good money at the end of it. Like old sodiers, BMW Rallye suits never die, they just fade away. :rob

Go on, just do it. :tarka
 
A modestly priced Rallye Pro 2 suit in my exact size. So I went for it. Expecting the worst, when I opened the package I found what I took to be something that had fallen off the back of a lorry, so clean and new-looking was it - seriously good value. :thumb2 And trying it on in my house showed that the sizing and the position of the adjustable armour was spot on. So today was its baptism-of-fire - a 50 mile blast around the leafy lanes of West Sussex. And bloody brilliant it was too.

In fact, so well made is this suit, so comfortable to wear and good at doing its job that I would have bought a new one immediately had I realised. The way that everything is thought through is just head-and-shoulders above the rest in my view and worth every penny. My son, who lives and works in Sydney wears a 'Prat' suit on his forays into the bush and says that the venting system is just brilliant, even in the elevated temperatures of that location.

There are others, the best being Rukka (very, very expensive in my view for a new Tosser) and Rev'it which is on a par with Heine Gerick

So here is my advice if you are thinking seriously about joining this mad world of Tossers; if you are buying your bike from a dealer on finance, why not get a 'Prat' suit added to the total. Its not going to hurt much spread over 3 years and the suit will still be worth good money at the end of it. Like old sodiers, BMW Rallye suits never die, they just fade away. :rob

Go on, just do it. :tarka

Ride, MCN, Bike, sign this man up! :augie

Seriously though glad to hear your fit enough to be back on 2 wheels.
 
old rascal,round here the rally suit has always been refered to as a twat suit
and why do you have to write in fecking blue:nenau
 
Thanks Oldrascal, that's a pretty damn good comparison/review. Exactly what a new Tosser like me is looking for. Roll on pay-day.
 
Thanks for the good wishes Prattapilar, that makes two of us who are glad that I am back with a throbbing device under me. :augie

As to your intense dislike of my 'blue' writing autogs, Picasso was acclaimed for his 'Blue' period so if that colour is good enough for him and me, you should learn to fall in love with it. :comfort Mind you, the Picasso 'Blue' period was followed by his 'Rose' period and if your gentle chiding is designed to encourage me to move in that truly sweet direction as a replacement, I fear I must disappoint. But that's enough thrills for one night. :rose Anyhow, I find the Comic Sans MS font that I use makes reading easier on tired old eyes like mine.....particularly after a couple of bevvies. :beerjug: After all, you just have to read it, I am the one who has to colour the bloody writing and that's damned tiring on my wrist which aches all the time. I think that's what's doing it......:augie

Of course you are quite right about 'Prat' versus 'Twat' but the latter does have a more........how shall I put it.......warm and moist derivative quite out of keeping with this area of the forum aimed at the impressionable and those not yet exposed to thr Tosser lfe style and humour. Now where is my copy of Nuts? :ChrisKelly
 
Pity ...

... you didn't try the search function first, then you could have tried Halvarsson too :blast
 
I don't mind the colour, the font or the alternative name.

A very enjoyable post too but I think that you will need more than a 50 mile ride to discover the suit's (few) failings. I look forward to a repeat write-up after a few thousand miles and a goodly variation in conditions. :thumb2
 
I wondered what the Twat suit was

I have been looking to buy my first set of textile clothing and have been searching these columns for advice. This was a particularly useful thread so thanks.

One of the issues I have been having is getting clothing that is long enough being so tall and thin :augie so your thoughts on this issue were also welcome.

Got to admit though after reading these posts I would feel a bit self conscious in the "twat" suit, despite the fact that I think it looks great.

Another review I found helpful (in the product review posts) was for the Dane range of clothing which I also think looks good. I am currently waiting for a chance to get to a dealer to try.
 
Of course you are quite right about 'Prat' versus 'Twat' but the latter does have a more........how shall I put it.......warm and moist derivative quite out of keeping with this area of the forum aimed at the impressionable and those not yet exposed to thr Tosser lfe style and humour. Now where is my copy of Nuts? :ChrisKelly

So instead of putting this 'review' in the correct section of the site (so that people wishing to read your pearls of wisdom can compare them against the other billion threads in favour of every suit under the sun) you come up with a nickname that no one else on here has ever heard of to try and protect the newbies? :blast
 
Drat it, Mutley has found me out, discovered my secret, turned me over and trussed me up like a chicken. So 'its an honest cop, guv'nor' and 'I put me 'ands up'.

"What the feck is he talking about?" I can hear you all saying in sweet unison. Here is my defence to the accusation.

1. 'Prat' vs 'Twat'

There is an old adage in the world of computer programming which applies to just about every endeavour where the hand of man is involved. The innocent acronym is RIRO and the translation is Rubbish In Rubbish Out.

In other words, if the figures, symbols, letters, numbers or, by extension, basic concepts entered into an equation, essay, theory or even posts in a forum :augie are utterly fallacious or innacurate, then however well and efficiently the user may implement the formulae and assumptions, what comes out the other end will be WRONG. :blast Now just bear with me on this one.

And so it is, dear fellow Tossers, that I have to admit that, during the penning of my review, my hand was in 6th gear whilst my brain was, at times, in neutral. Of course Muttley and Autogs are right and the suit is affectionately :rolleyes: known as a 'Twat' suit. But having started the header with Prat, I stopped thinking and so Prat it became. And similarly with the space shuttle disaster :( which exploded because, during preparation, centimeters were read as inches and then never questioned thereafter.

But I still prefer Prat which has an honourable history in music-hall (prat-fall) and only refers to the derriere whereas Twat is definitely a euphemism for a lady's front bottom which is worthy of far greater reverence .:bow


2. Position on site

This is much easier.

The"Go on, you know you want one" forum has 2,451 threads and is aimed at newbies of one sort or another. The more apparently relevant forum of "Product Reviews" has just 90 threads and is quite lonely out there somewhere near Pluto where I felt the review would not reach those to whom it was addressed. Anyhow, if this post is inappropriate, I am sure that our esteemed moderator, Bryn, would have moved it.

So, as my often drunk but still bloody brilliant maths prof used to write, "Quod erat demonstrandum"............or, in plain English, "Mine's a pint". :beer:
 
On a Serious Note

BamBam and I have been very impressed with the humble twat suit since I crashed Red a couple of weekends ago. (http://www.ukgser.com/forums/showthread.php?t=176559)

Considering the abrasion issue on tarmac the suit did not break through to skin anywhere on me. The impact protection did its job brilliantly, unfortunatley I now need a new suit as it was cut off at hospital before I had the CT scan to check my neck and kidney (it was at speed). We also wear the BMW Enduro helmets and gloves.
BamBam also flipped the HP2 in 2007 at about 40mph on tarmac, hit a stationary car, his suit only ripped a little wear were the enduro boot clips are under the trousers.

:rob On the question of are the suits good for comfort and distance, well I can answer that aswell as in December 2008 we did over 3500 miles to Morocco and back (http://www.ukgser.com/forums/showthread.php?t=171843) this was through snow and ice followed by desert then more snow and ice. The suits were excellant, what more can I say.

P.S. We do use the BMW heated waist coats aswell and use all the bikes all year for off-road and tarmac.
 
Clothing

Whilst on the subject of textile clothing I bought a HG pro suit very pleased as you can take the liners out and it still remains waterproof. One problem you may be able to help me with though-- kneeling down to put chain on wheel, lent against hot exhaust and melted hole in outer about 50mm x 50mm any ideas on repair?
 


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