Re engine paint on triple black gs

[leadfarmer]

Never heard of ACF50 until i came to this hair salon / forum

Mine gets jet washed when it's minging like all my bikes have

So far my silver engine looks like new

 

[wileeeeeey]

After engine corrosion most people get a new engine but some people have had a new bike.

How come some people get a new bike?

 

[Nutty]

So, here's how I clean my bikes, I've never used acf50 and never had any corrosion.

1. Spray either SDOC100 power gel or ph neutral snow foam onto a dry cold bike, and leave it on for 10-15 minutes.
2. Jet wash it off, not getting too close to anything electrical/ bearings etc.
3. Shampoo bike with Zymol car shampoo.
4. Jet wash shampoo off.
5. Blow dry from the engine/ switchgear/ any hard to reach areas.
6. Wipe over with a moist microfibre cloth.
7. Go over the bike again with a dry microfibre cloth.

From start to finish, I can do the GSA in about 45 minutes. The only additional measure I take when the roads are salty, is a liberal spray with FS365 before EVERY ride, if the roads have been gritted.

If it's been raining or the bike has got wet during the ride, I'll then thoroughly rinse the bike when I get home, blow dry the water off, then wash (as above) either later that day when the bike has cooled down, or the next day.

 

[Nutty]

After engine corrosion most people get a new engine but some people have had a new bike.

How come some people get a new bike?

Because not everyone wants their bike pulled apart, so will negotiate a cost to change from BMW.

 

[Wrinkly]

If you own the bike, be prepared to fight harder than if you rent it.

 

[DING-DONG]

If you own the bike, be prepared to fight harder than if you rent it.

So it's more sensible to go the pcp option rather then buying outright ! Would they assist in the event of a claim !

 

[duckspeed]

The question is though, should you have to do all this wash it in unicorns tears nonsense. Or should a quality motorbike be a bit more rugged?
I'm guessing that the replacement engines are finished no differently, and that they too rot in no time.

 

[Engineer]

The question is though, should you have to do all this wash it in unicorns tears nonsense. Or should a quality motorbike be a bit more rugged?
I'm guessing that the replacement engines are finished no differently, and that they too rot in no time.

Paint finish should be better but always worth using FS365 (I use it all year round now) and regular washing with a decent bike detergent.

As I use the bike most days it is not possible to wash it after every winter ride so I hand wipe the most vulnerable bits with ACF50 and drown the fcuker in FS365 after every Sunday afternoon wash.

 

[Fluffmeister]

So, here's how I clean my bikes, I've never used acf50 and never had any corrosion.

1. Spray either SDOC100 power gel or ph neutral snow foam onto a dry cold bike, and leave it on for 10-15 minutes.
2. Jet wash it off, not getting too close to anything electrical/ bearings etc.
3. Shampoo bike with Zymol car shampoo.
4. Jet wash shampoo off.
5. Blow dry from the engine/ switchgear/ any hard to reach areas.
6. Wipe over with a moist microfibre cloth.
7. Go over the bike again with a dry microfibre cloth.

From start to finish, I can do the GSA in about 45 minutes. The only additional measure I take when the roads are salty, is a liberal spray with FS365 before EVERY ride, if the roads have been gritted.

If it's been raining or the bike has got wet during the ride, I'll then thoroughly rinse the bike when I get home, blow dry the water off, then wash (as above) either later that day when the bike has cooled down, or the next day.

We should not have to resort to that kind of thing on a supposed premium product, however I do just that with my K1600.

It's not confined to BMW, my mates Africa Twin is dissolving and he uses FS365 / ACF 50 and he's going through the rejection process, and whilst he has the support of his dealer (So he says) Honda are digging their heels in and the best offer he's had is to split the engine and replace the crank cases.

So we should not have to, but because of things like water based paint, we have to. At least BMW seem to be doing the right thing, (speaking from experience here after my RT LC Triggers Broom job), and helping.

Got to wonder if it would not just be cheaper to devise some better paint and finishing process on components in the long run.

 

[Fluffmeister]

Because not everyone wants their bike pulled apart, so will negotiate a cost to change from BMW.

That's what I did after the second engine went south on my RT LC, and ended up with a K1600 and a new BMW Streetguard suit for my patience I just didn't want it ripping apart a third time.

 

[sven]

So, here's how I clean my bikes, I've never used acf50 and never had any corrosion.

1. Spray either SDOC100 power gel or ph neutral snow foam onto a dry cold bike, and leave it on for 10-15 minutes.
2. Jet wash it off, not getting too close to anything electrical/ bearings etc.
3. Shampoo bike with Zymol car shampoo.
4. Jet wash shampoo off.
5. Blow dry from the engine/ switchgear/ any hard to reach areas.
6. Wipe over with a moist microfibre cloth.
7. Go over the bike again with a dry microfibre cloth.

From start to finish, I can do the GSA in about 45 minutes. The only additional measure I take when the roads are salty, is a liberal spray with FS365 before EVERY ride, if the roads have been gritted.

If it's been raining or the bike has got wet during the ride, I'll then thoroughly rinse the bike when I get home, blow dry the water off, then wash (as above) either later that day when the bike has cooled down, or the next day.

My engine was replaced in May and I noticed that flecks of corrosion had started to reappear in mid-July when I returned from a 17 day holiday to the States. The bike had done maybe 800 miles and never seen salt or a wet road. I've kept it plastered in FS365 in winter storage and it hasn't got much worse except for a little bit appearing on the bevel box around the rear axle oil seal.

I stopped using Muc Off when the engine was changed and now use Rhino Goo which is supposedly less aggressive and leaves the bike nice and shiny, plus it always gets washed with Zip Wax car shampoo afterwards.

 

[oldenoughtoknowbetter]

But don't mention the heated garage when you take it back to the dealer! Damp bike, warm atmosphere and maybe, but not necessarily a smidging of salt and you have the perfect conditions for corrosion!

 

[Nutty]

That's what I did after the second engine went south on my RT LC, and ended up with a K1600 and a new BMW Streetguard suit for my patience I just didn't want it ripping apart a third time.

The day I find corrosion on the engine on my GSA is the day it will be returned to BMW. I wouldn't accept a new engine, and I'd certainly be thinking whether I'd actually want another GS/ GSA.

The paint/ fastenings on my S1000XR still look like new, after 2 winters. I find it strange that BMW can get it spot on, on one model of bike, yet you hear all these negative reports on their best selling range. Surely it wouldn't be too difficult for them to resolve the issue, or is the problem in the design of the engine?

 

[Bendy toy]

So, here's how I clean my bikes, I've never used acf50 and never had any corrosion.

1. Spray either SDOC100 power gel or ph neutral snow foam onto a dry cold bike, and leave it on for 10-15 minutes.
2. Jet wash it off, not getting too close to anything electrical/ bearings etc.
3. Shampoo bike with Zymol car shampoo.
4. Jet wash shampoo off.
5. Blow dry from the engine/ switchgear/ any hard to reach areas.
6. Wipe over with a moist microfibre cloth.
7. Go over the bike again with a dry microfibre cloth.

From start to finish, I can do the GSA in about 45 minutes. The only additional measure I take when the roads are salty, is a liberal spray with FS365 before EVERY ride, if the roads have been gritted.

If it's been raining or the bike has got wet during the ride, I'll then thoroughly rinse the bike when I get home, blow dry the water off, then wash (as above) either later that day when the bike has cooled down, or the next day.

All very nice but some of us have a life outside cleaning the bike.

Any form of transport that can't cope with getting wet then has to be cleaned with toothbrush and coated with costly products like F365 is frankly not fit for purpose.


Sent somehow.

 

[Nutty]

All very nice but some of us have a life outside cleaning the bike.

Any form of transport that can't cope with getting wet then has to be cleaned with toothbrush and coated with costly products like F365 is frankly not fit for purpose.


Sent somehow.

I'm glad you have a life. 30 minutes (max) to clean a bike is hardly an issue. I'd wager that there are some on here that spend four times longer, or more, cleaning their bikes on a regular basis.

Toothbrush? Nope, never used one of those. Using your analogy of FS365, there are no bikes fit for purpose out there then.

 

[Author]

All very nice but some of us have a life outside cleaning the bike.

Any form of transport that can't cope with getting wet then has to be cleaned with toothbrush and coated with costly products like F365 is frankly not fit for purpose.

Sent somehow.

This made me smile especially as Nippy now sells a sonic toothbrush for cleaning the bike. Apparently it feels cleaner and smells lovely and minty when you're done!

 

[Nutty]

This made me smile especially as Nippy now sells a sonic toothbrush for cleaning the bike. Apparently it feels cleaner and smells lovely and minty when you're done!

I must admit that made me laugh when I saw it on their website!

 

[Mad Paddy]

Thanks everyone for advise
Will keep all updated

 

[Mad Paddy]

Bike going into Joe Duffys to have new engine fitted next week
So all should be ok

 

[Oldrat]

Bike going into Joe Duffys to have new engine fitted next week
So all should be ok

Thanks for raising the matter.

Q Do you own it or is it on a PCP?