mwhite5471
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Mine were toast at 10,500m...better than some here but still bad IMO.
rear brake wear
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B*LL*X Ordered some sintered pads yesterday from Ebay - going to change them to Organic if i can...
Godzilla
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Why does it matter if you get sintered rather than organic?
Gix
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Mine lasted about 5000 miles.
roamer
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The front pads are sintered so are we having issues with the discs wearing badly,
Not had any issues currently or with previous gsa s allways used ebc hh sintered
The rear discs are not different material,, the rear pads allways wore quicker,
used sintered rears no disc wear noticed,
I do find the rear brake seems to set the abs off without much pressure,
up to 3500 and look like very little wear,
I wonder if the tcs is applying the rear causing the issue,,,
Not had any issues currently or with previous gsa s allways used ebc hh sintered
The rear discs are not different material,, the rear pads allways wore quicker,
used sintered rears no disc wear noticed,
I do find the rear brake seems to set the abs off without much pressure,
up to 3500 and look like very little wear,
I wonder if the tcs is applying the rear causing the issue,,,
madmartin
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Bung sintered in and av done with it.
Put ebc sintered in the rear 3k ago and no problems...disc is like new and the pads are wearing a lot better than the original orgasm pads.
Put ebc sintered in the rear 3k ago and no problems...disc is like new and the pads are wearing a lot better than the original orgasm pads.
madmartin
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I meant organic.
Bendy toy
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Motor works told me that using sintered in the back with non sintered in front will over brake the back wheel. I personally think that BMW use too much rear brake bias as I hardly ever use the pedal and then its close to ABS cutting in. Shame the bias is not adjustable. One option might me to use the most grippy front pads which will stop with less brake pressure so there'll be less rear brake applied by the system. At least that may be an option on older bikes that don't not use OEM sintered.
madmartin
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Godzilla
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As this thread is about the LC and the OEM front pads are sintered, would this not make what Motor Works says irrelevant?
(Its not all BMW bikes that do this. My S1000RR has done 24000 miles and the rear pads are still the original ones from when the bike is new.)
Bendy toy
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roamer
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Rear pads
Is it possible that a particular riding mode is relevant to brake bias to the rear,
Or combined or individual use of front or rear,
The Bosch 9 series abs unit is capable of using the rear brake under power ,
To maintain traction and or keep the front wheel down,
Do other factors like tyre choice have any bearing on it,
some riders give it the beans most of the time and let the bike sort it out, which it does, possibly wearing the rear pads,
Is it worth a simple poll to gauge any common denominator ,
There are enough varied wear rates mentioned,
Is it possible that a particular riding mode is relevant to brake bias to the rear,
Or combined or individual use of front or rear,
The Bosch 9 series abs unit is capable of using the rear brake under power ,
To maintain traction and or keep the front wheel down,
Do other factors like tyre choice have any bearing on it,
some riders give it the beans most of the time and let the bike sort it out, which it does, possibly wearing the rear pads,
Is it worth a simple poll to gauge any common denominator ,
There are enough varied wear rates mentioned,
Or just carry a spare set of pads under your seat, they are very easy to fit, only a small pair of pliers required, I took a pad out today to check the part number, an easy job.
Marshalls of Grimsby quoted me £70.78 for a rear set today, I was stunned, so will probably get a spare set for under my seat from Moto-bins, they sell the Brembo OEM equivalent cost £33.00 plus a few quid on post, although they do also have a Ferodo set at £17.40, but these are not Sintered Bronze.
Marshalls of Grimsby quoted me £70.78 for a rear set today, I was stunned, so will probably get a spare set for under my seat from Moto-bins, they sell the Brembo OEM equivalent cost £33.00 plus a few quid on post, although they do also have a Ferodo set at £17.40, but these are not Sintered Bronze.
yankeedoodledandy
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FWIW, on my 2013 LC, I ran a set of sintered carbone lorraine pads on the back for 4k miles after the OEM pads wore out in 6k miles. The switch from organic to sintered appeared to cause significant wear of the rear rotor versus the front rotors, judging by their relative thickness versus new (measurements were posted in another brakes thread).
I switched back to a new set of OEM pads and put another 6k miles on the bike since. The new pads still have a lot of material left, less than half worn at this point, and I assume the rotor is much happier, though I haven't measured the thickness yet (will post back tonight when I get home). So the problem on my bike was that the factory installed pads were either too soft or not very thick versus what BMW sells as replacements, not necessarily that organic pads all wear out too quickly.
Just a data point, YMMV, of course.
I switched back to a new set of OEM pads and put another 6k miles on the bike since. The new pads still have a lot of material left, less than half worn at this point, and I assume the rotor is much happier, though I haven't measured the thickness yet (will post back tonight when I get home). So the problem on my bike was that the factory installed pads were either too soft or not very thick versus what BMW sells as replacements, not necessarily that organic pads all wear out too quickly.
Just a data point, YMMV, of course.
yankeedoodledandy
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So current rotor thickness at 16k miles is 4.70 mm. Thickness at 10k miles (4k sintered + 6k OEM) was 4.79 mm. So it does seem to be wearing more slowly now that I've been back to organics.
My old post at 10k miles: "Rear rotor measured thickness is 4.79 mm, new is supposedly 5.00 mm, wear limit is 4.5 mm.
For reference on my braking frequency, front rotors measured 4.40 mm/4.39 mm, new is 4.50 mm, wear limit is 4.0 mm.
So for 0.5 mm spec life, I'm 40% through the rear rotor life in 10k miles and 20% through the fronts.
My old post at 10k miles: "Rear rotor measured thickness is 4.79 mm, new is supposedly 5.00 mm, wear limit is 4.5 mm.
For reference on my braking frequency, front rotors measured 4.40 mm/4.39 mm, new is 4.50 mm, wear limit is 4.0 mm.
So for 0.5 mm spec life, I'm 40% through the rear rotor life in 10k miles and 20% through the fronts.
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