Rear brake.

[Jonah]

Dont seem to be getting a response to my earlier thread so i'll try a different angle . Is there an issue with the rear brake on a 1200gs????? , and is it that the rear brake eats pads at a quicker rate than would seem normal???
If so, then its obviously something owners should be aware of rather than suddenly realise you've no rear brake.
( can hear the comments now , should check this, check that etc )

 

[Mzokk]

Hi Jonah, I've got an 1150 but I think the rear calipers are of similar design. Put the bike on the centre stand and spin the rear wheel apply the brake a few times if you try to spin it again and it drags that would account for a high ware rate. If so clean the caliper pistons and make sure the sliding bit is sliding (the caliper is a two piston sliding caliper design)

This topic has been discussed before and there is a wide variation on the amount of miles people get. Town users and pillion carriers are likely to use more rear brake and wear them out more quickly. FWIW I got 16,000 miles out of the oem rears and 27,000 out of the oem fronts and the rears will need changed again soon at 31,000miles I mainly ride in the countryside in light traffic. I think the suspension design of the GS encourages more use of the rear brake as there is little brake dive due to the telelever and therefore less weight transfer and less likelyhood of locking the rear.

While on my Suzuki I went through several sets of front pads mainly due to using the bike on track days, but sold the bike recently at 28k and it was still on the oem rear pads as hard braking on that bike and a short wheelbase meant that use of the front brakes meant little or no weight on the rear.

Oops I'm rambling

 

[cookie]

Is there an issue with the rear brake on a 1200gs?????

yes

and is it that the rear brake eats pads at a quicker rate than would seem normal???

yes

If so, then its obviously something owners should be aware of rather than suddenly realise you've no rear brake.

i am aware & there are several threads mentioning this subject on the site here. a search of the 1200/technical forums should turn something up.

it does not appear to affect 1150s, just (some) 1200s.

 

[Splink]

Dont seem to be getting a response to my earlier thread so i'll try a different angle . Is there an issue with the rear brake on a 1200gs????? , and is it that the rear brake eats pads at a quicker rate than would seem normal???
If so, then its obviously something owners should be aware of rather than suddenly realise you've no rear brake.
( can hear the comments now , should check this, check that etc )

I have an 1150 and use the rear brake differently according to the weather conditions and get about 25k from a set of rear pads (the same pads fit both bikes). My girlfriend has a 1200 (with linked brakes) and recently only got 1500 miles from a set of rear pads. I think the problem is that a lot of people have been taught to use the rear brake peddle and haven't been told that with linked brakes they dont need to keep doing this. If you use the rear brake peddle on a linked system I think there is a chance that you may be doubling up on the amount of brake effort you are putting into the rear wheel.

 

[gspizza]

Rear breaks... crappy riding?

My experience last week ....
I was worried about the brake performance on my 2006 Gs and had it checked out
I discovered rear brake worn down to bare metal at 4000 kilomoters,
First I though it was my crappy riding,
but now Im not so sure
any one else out there blamed thier crappy riding

 

[Splink]

My experience last week ....
I was worried about the brake performance on my 2006 Gs and had it checked out
I discovered rear brake worn down to bare metal at 4000 kilomoters,
First I though it was my crappy riding,
but now Im not so sure
any one else out there blamed thier crappy riding

I hate the fact that a bike manufacturer will make a bike that takes away from you the right to ride your bike in the most effective way for the conditions on any given day, ie linked brakes. How about you?

 

[cookie]

I hate the fact that a bike manufacturer will make a bike that takes away from you the right to ride your bike in the most effective way for the conditions on any given day, ie linked brakes. How about you?

if there was an option to de link them & remove the variable power function from the rear, i'd do it in a flash.

 

[Splink]

if there was an option to de link them & remove the variable power function from the rear, i'd do it in a flash.

I dont suppose variable power function to the rear is something I can alter on my G-f's bike is it

 

[Steptoe]

Some 1150's can go through rear pads in a 1000 miles. 1100/1150 seem to average 6K miles for the rears. Thats servo with linked brakes and non servo bikes.

 

[cookie]

I dont suppose variable power function to the rear is something I can alter on my G-f's bike is it

that's variable by the ECU, not by the rider unfortunately.

 

[cookie]

Some 1150's can go through rear pads in a 1000 miles.

i didn't know that.


obviously

 

[Engineer]

Dont seem to be getting a response to my earlier thread so i'll try a different angle . Is there an issue with the rear brake on a 1200gs????? , and is it that the rear brake eats pads at a quicker rate than would seem normal???
If so, then its obviously something owners should be aware of rather than suddenly realise you've no rear brake.
( can hear the comments now , should check this, check that etc )

I bet your bike has servo/linked/abs type brakes - get proper 'normal' brakes and this will not happen :

 

[Steptoe]

I bet your bike has servo/linked/abs type brakes - get proper 'normal' brakes and this will not happen :

Not necessarily, see post 9 .

The chances of it happening will be reduced, but it's not a certainty.

 

[Engineer]

Not necessarily, see post 9 .

The chances of it happening will be reduced, but it's not a certainty.

I meant any combination of servo/abs/linked brakes, not necessarily all three together - or are you saying that plain, common or garden, separately actuated, non-assisted in any way type brakes also have this problem?

 

[Steptoe]

I meant any combination of servo/abs/linked brakes, not necessarily all three together - or are you saying that plain, common or garden, separately actuated, non-assisted in any way type brakes also have this problem?

As i've already stated, refer to post 9.

But i'll repeat for the hard of reading - ANY REAR BRAKE , servo, ABS, non abs, plain simple rear caliper rider operated only brakes, can and do go through the rear pads on 1000 miles or less.

 

[Engineer]

As i've already stated, refer to post 9.

But i'll repeat for the hard of reading - ANY REAR BRAKE , servo, ABS, non abs, plain simple rear caliper rider operated only brakes, can and do go through the rear pads on 1000 miles or less.

Hmmmm - and why, oh wise one should 'normal' unlinked, non-servo, non-abs brakes do this - assuming that the pads weren't duff from new, or that the brakes are faulty and are binding? It makes no sense unless the user of said brakes is a total muppet.

 

[Dellis]

Dont seem to be getting a response to my earlier thread so i'll try a different angle . Is there an issue with the rear brake on a 1200gs????? , and is it that the rear brake eats pads at a quicker rate than would seem normal???
If so, then its obviously something owners should be aware of rather than suddenly realise you've no rear brake.
( can hear the comments now , should check this, check that etc )

Mine had eaten the pads and disk at 6,000 miles - not happy! Disc replaced under warranty pads were my problem and at BMW prices that was a £45 problem for a £15ish set of pads (see Motor Works).

Dave

 

[Gazzabart]

Brake pad question

please advise who replaced the disc and pads and was it a warranty repair that you didnt pay a penny
ta
gaz