Rear input shaft seal removal advice

Bikermike1411

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Hi all,

Following Steptoe’s advice, the next major job I need to tackle in my restoration is replacing the rear input shaft seal on my 1150GS. I was hoping to get it done in the next week, before I’m laid up for a couple of months due to impending shoulder surgery.

There’s surprisingly little information on the internet about this, and I can’t find a single video showing the job being done without stripping the gearbox.

I’ve been assured it can be taken out in-situ, and the BMW manual simply says ‘lever out with a screwdriver’. The Clymer manual seems to only show it being replaced by stripping the gearbox and driving it inwards.

I’ve read a couple of threads on this parish - this one seems to be the best:


I can’t work out if I should be trying to get something down the outside or the inside edge of the seal. I don’t want to damage the pushrod tunnel face or the inner face of the recess it sits in. I also can’t work out just what tools to use. I have some cheap ‘dentist’ picks, but they’re probably not the right tools.

There’s some references out there to either putting a self-tapping screw in and pulling against this - this resulted in the seal being shredded in that thread above! I’ve also read about a specialist self-tapping slide hammer device, but the one shared on the post was extremely expensive, and I have no idea if it wouldn’t have the same effect as the self tapping screw method.

I do have a slide hammer (as part of a bearing-puller kit) which I did consider fashioning some sort of adapter for, but again, I don’t want to put anything down the side which might scratch the mating faces.

There are seal levers like this which may be adaptable:

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I know the pivot bar won’t work in this context due to the depth of the tunnel, but I wondered if I could use the rest of the tool somehow.

It needs to be said that the gearbox is still attached to the engine, not face down on the bench, and the bike is stripped down completely to just the engine, transmission, swing arm and rear wheel.

Can anyone please give me some clear advice on how to remove it properly, or point me towards a how-to? Pictures of tools you’ve used, techniques or the job being done would be really helpful…video would be amazing!

Appreciated as always!

Mike
 
Try looking for, or Google “R1150 Gearbox output shaft seal replacement”.

There’s plenty of info out there.
 
Thanks Ian. It’s the input shaft seal, between the slave cylinder recess and the gearbox, not the output shaft. There’s lots of websites and videos about the output shaft, but nothing that I can really find about changing the seal on the input shaft.

I’ve searched for every permeation - ‘R1150 input shaft seal change’, ‘input shaft seal replacement’ ‘slave cylinder gearbox seal change’ etc

There’s a thread on an American forum, and the one linked above.

The search algorithms bring up a lot of output/driveshaft seal replacement information, but that seems to be it!
 
Absolutely not a problem - thanks for pointing me towards Steptoe’s solution! I’ll order a couple of decent picks and go from there…..
 
Got the damn thing out!

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Took three sessions of start, stop, walk away, but it finally popped out this evening!

Didn’t use screws - after I’d surgically removed the inner rubber I couldn’t find a drill bit narrow or long enough to reach the steel ring. Instead I used a punch to knock it back towards the bearing, then hooked a screwdriver up the inside across the lower side of the input shaft, braced against the tunnel with a rag and levered it out - it came with a satisfying pop, and no damage done.

I’m off for a brew - thanks for the advice!
 


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