Recommend a laminated goretex

[jefformston]

I have Klim Badlands , bought 2011, it has seen sterling service over 100,000 miles so far I think,, and has never let in a drop of water so far . Arctic on 2 continents to Death Valley in the summer ,, it’s a top All rounder .

Bought my Badlands in 2015, not as many miles on it as Boatman, only 40,000. Brilliant piece of kit, not the most stylish far too boxy and looks pretty crap off the bike. But and it’s a big but, it just works on the bike it’s extremely comfortable in all weathers and temperatures. Worn in 42c in Spain and the vents keep me cool, with a Macna cool vest underneath. Worn at -5 in the UK with a Keis heated jacket underneath. Never leaked in biblical rain over many hours of riding. Probably the most versatile bike gear I’ve ever owned.

It’s now mostly used for an annual Euro trip each summer. A Rukka Arma-T now doing duties in the UK for most of the year, the Badlands only comes out for riding In the peak summer months in the UK.

Would I buy another one? Possibly but I’d probably check out the Stadler suit from Motolegends first as it seems to have the vents of the Klim and the better style of the Rukka, best of both worlds.

 

[Neil W]

Bought my Badlands in 2015, not as many miles on it as Boatman, only 40,000. Brilliant piece of kit, not the most stylish far too boxy and looks pretty crap off the bike. But and it’s a big but, it just works on the bike it’s extremely comfortable in all weathers and temperatures. Worn in 42c in Spain and the vents keep me cool, with a Macna cool vest underneath. Worn at -5 in the UK with a Keis heated jacket underneath. Never leaked in biblical rain over many hours of riding. Probably the most versatile bike gear I’ve ever owned.

It’s now mostly used for an annual Euro trip each summer. A Rukka Arma-T now doing duties in the UK for most of the year, the Badlands only comes out for riding In the peak summer months in the UK.

Would I buy another one? Possibly but I’d probably check out the Stadler suit from Motolegends first as it seems to have the vents of the Klim and the better style of the Rukka, best of both worlds.

Issue I have with Stadler in the UK is one supplier with a very limited range availability , I visited their stand at IMOT, Munich a few years ago and they had a huge range of kit from full on winter kit to light weight summer only gear with everything in between

 

[Mzokk]

I have an original Revit Posidon suit. Had it for 5 years never leaked. Longest ridden in torrential rain was from the Kyle of Lochalsh to Cairnryan so about 250 miles. Not a drop of rain got through. the Posidon 2 is out now. Cheaper than Rukka!!

 

[Mzokk]

Oh got it from Crossans (the visor shop) who are Revit dealers. So if your up in Mayo Bridge you could probably try a suit on!

 

[barny]

Same story for me, got hit for duties and a long wait, then found the jacket in UK at same original price as Germany in the meantime whilst looking for the matching trousers. Still much cheaper to buy the outgoing suit than the latest design though, even with the import cost added.

My Enduroguard kit has performed superbly in all conditions from hot weather with all vents open through to cold winter downpours.

There was an up side to my jacket which was a Tourshell, I used it for early summer trip to Italy and got wet a few times and each time the waterproof pocket filled with water. So on my return when to my local BMW dealer with the receipt and their chap said no problem it still got 2 yrs warranty. So it was replaced not with a Tourshell as no longer made but with a new Pacedry Adventure so £290 for the Tourshell to a £495 Pacedry I was pleased.

 

[trebor]

Take a look at Sportsbikeshop, they currently have some cracking deals on Rukka, and other brands.

 

[Arsey]

Take a look at Sportsbikeshop, they currently have some cracking deals on Rukka, and other brands.

And then Motolegends will beat it by another 10%.
So you can save 30% on Rukka etc.
Obviously Rukka is utter shite, as I read it here

 

[trebor]

And then Motolegends will beat it by another 10%.
So you can save 30% on Rukka etc.

I'm not too sure that is correct. I used to think they meant they would beat the offer by 10% of the discount, i.e. if the discount was 20% on a £100 item, making it £20 discount, they would give you a further £2 discount making the overall discount 22%.

However, having just re-read their terms:

Almost invariably, we sell goods at the manufacturers' recommended prices. But if you find an authorised dealer in the UK offering anything that we sell, for more than £5 less than our price, we'll beat that discounted price by a further 10%.

I think if the item cost £100 and another retailer is discounting it by 20%, making it £80, then Motolegends will discount this price by a further £8, making it an overall 28% discount, which is still a damned good deal!

 

[adventuredon]

I'm not too sure that is correct. I used to think they meant they would beat the offer by 10% of the discount, i.e. if the discount was 20% on a £100 item, making it £20 discount, they would give you a further £2 discount making the overall discount 22%.

However, having just re-read their terms:



I think if the item cost £100 and another retailer is discounting it by 20%, making it £80, then Motolegends will discount this price by a further £8, making it an overall 28% discount, which is still a damned good deal!

you are correct. They discount the item a full 10% after the price as you describe

 

[adm1]

you are correct. They discount the item a full 10% after the price as you describe

Yep. And with Black Friday coming up, there should be some good deals on Rukka (or other brand) kit, which Moto Leg Ends will be more or less happy to beat by an extra 10%. Sometimes they grimace a bit, but they always honour the deal.

If you can spend a bit of time searching for the best UK, online and in-stock price on the net, then Leg Ends really can't be beaten on price.

 

[GS2022]

Obviously Rukka is utter shite, as I read it here

In my experience, Rukka is reliably waterproof (like any Gore-Tex Pro nowadays) and warm when you need it. But it’s like riding in posh ski gear – comfortable and waterproof, but I’d hate to surf down the road in it.

While the XTR armour is great (Level 2 with excellent coverage), I wouldn’t want to tarmac slide in Rukka. Except for the AA-rated Kingsley suit, no Rukka textiles have adequate reinforcement in the areas at high abrasion risk (knees, elbows, etc.). And the resultant CE A-rating for these textiles is crap.

In contrast, Halvarssons makes laminated textile clothing (some with stretch laminate like Rukka’s Nivala), yet achieves an AA-rating for its textiles thanks to Hi-Art reinforcement in the critical areas.

 

[autogs]

Having crashed at 70 mph into a dead horse I can assure you my rukka armas performed brilliantly,the super fabric and armour did its job as did my shoei lid.

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[adm1]

In my experience, Rukka is reliably waterproof (like any Gore-Tex Pro nowadays) and warm when you need it. But it’s like riding in posh ski gear – comfortable and waterproof, but I’d hate to surf down the road in it.

While the XTR armour is great (Level 2 with excellent coverage), I wouldn’t want to tarmac slide in Rukka. Except for the AA-rated Kingsley suit, no Rukka textiles have adequate reinforcement in the areas at high abrasion risk (knees, elbows, etc.). And the resultant CE A-rating for these textiles is crap.

In contrast, Halvarssons makes laminated textile clothing (some with stretch laminate like Rukka’s Nivala), yet achieves an AA-rating for its textiles thanks to Hi-Art reinforcement in the critical areas.

Surely the massive Rukka D30 armour at the normal sliding places kind of protects you? Even if the exterior (pretty strong) fabric degrades, you are still sliding on 20mm of D30? Even before hitting interior layers.

I am pretty convinced my Rukka Rival suit will protect me well in case of an unscheduled dismount. Of course, hard street furniture may have a different perspective.

 

[adm1]

Having crashed at 70 mph into a dead horse I can assure you my rukka armas performed brilliantly,the super fabric and armour did its job as did my shoei lid.

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How did you manage that? Enquiring minds want to know.

 

[autogs]

Google 2016 A3 horse crash,
A3 north and southbound shut for most of the day after horses escape from field.

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[adm1]

Google 2016 A3 horse crash,
A3 north and southbound shut for most of the day after horses escape from field.

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Wow. Blood run too, That's shit luck.

I have to ask though - how do you hit a dead horse at 70 mph? They are quite big. A live one I could understand as its behaviour will be somewhat random on a motorway.

In any case, I am glad you are still here to talk about it.

 

[autogs]

No road lighting, horse laying down with a rug on etc, seems a bit strange I know but you had to be there! 3 other vehicles didn't see the nags either and all crashed.

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[EPG_19]

What is the gear for, late autumn ,winter and early spring the 3 layer laminate like Rukka, Stadler etc is brilliant but utterly useless in hot weather.

I have some vented 2 layer laminate gear by Lindstrands which is as good as the 3 layer goretex laminate but stll too warm for 25 degrees plus weather,

This summer had to buy mesh gear due to the high temps

All of the fat bald idiots sat at the side of the road, sweating their tits off, will still claim rukka is ok for the summer

 

[jefformston]

All of the fat bald idiots sat at the side of the road, sweating their tits off, will still claim rukka is ok for the summer

Tried mesh gear, didn’t like it as I got far too dehydrated riding in Spain with temps in the low 40c’s. Klim Badlands has been great in similar weather in Spain over the last 6 years. Yes I get hot, it’s 38-42c so unsurprising, but with the vents open & a cool vest the sweat still evaporates but not to the point of dehydration. Riding buddy wears a Stadler suit which has similar vents to the Badlands and he seems to prefer it to his BMW mesh gear as he picks the Stadler over the BMW gear every year.

IMHO mesh gear is great in the high 20c’s to low 30c’s but once it gets up to the mid 30c’s dehydration becomes the big factor and the airflow heats you up rather than cooling you down.

 

[ilkleymoron]

In my experience, Rukka is reliably waterproof (like any Gore-Tex Pro nowadays) and warm when you need it. But it’s like riding in posh ski gear – comfortable and waterproof, but I’d hate to surf down the road in it.

While the XTR armour is great (Level 2 with excellent coverage), I wouldn’t want to tarmac slide in Rukka. Except for the AA-rated Kingsley suit, no Rukka textiles have adequate reinforcement in the areas at high abrasion risk (knees, elbows, etc.). And the resultant CE A-rating for these textiles is crap.

In contrast, Halvarssons makes laminated textile clothing (some with stretch laminate like Rukka’s Nivala), yet achieves an AA-rating for its textiles thanks to Hi-Art reinforcement in the critical areas.

i have crashed in it a R nivala 1 suit, on a small B road at less than 35 mph. i low sided and the product wore through at a reinforced elbow and knee and started to wear out the d30. I only travelled less than 3 metres

i fully understand its not leather and will not perform as such, but even so i expected better, as i can afford it i am moving over to another brand staring with the trousers which will be salopettes as im sick and tired or having a wet front due to the gap