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stu1969

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(I didn't know where to ask this, os it's on here:rolleyes:)
I really don’t mind the wet, as long as my gear has chance to dry out between trips. Recently I have been doing a lot of miles without chance for some stuff to dry. I am mainly talking about the lining of my helmet and my inner clothing caused by water soaking from my neck tube to inside my jacket.

Can anybody suggest any possible solutions other than several neck tubes (which I have) and having an additional waterproof jacket over my waterproofs (which I do).

I will be interested in the advice from the hardier types out there.

Stu.
 
Get a jacket with the highest neck you can find. Halvarssons Optimal works well.

Alternatively you can get goretex lined felt material. I bought some from a woman selling dog jackets on Ebay. I think her username is DogsInTogs or something similar. You can cut a scarf out of it, sew it to the top of your jacket and stick some velcro on it to seal the ends. Very cheap and if you explain what you want, she'll sew it up for you too.

Mark
 
Forget fashion, just get a muff and gaucho combination.
Muffs will keep gloves dry and hands warm, gaucho will stop boots and everything else up to chest level getting wet and cold.....yes they look like crap, but they just work :thumb2


Two helmets as well.....have one drying, one on.
 
You need a jacket with a 'storm collar', these normally zip off for when its nice and dry, Hein Gericke jackets fit the bill. Under the collar, on the neck have a buff, the buff is to keep the draughts out more than water, the storm collar will do 99% of the job.

I think faffing around with tubes etc, it's a false economy, if you're riding all year good kit is key and goretex pro shell is the best IMHO.

My winter kit is:

Hein Gericke Master V. (linings removed)
Hein Gericke Goretex gloves.
Muffs.
Buff on the neck.
Base layer, top and trousers.
Gerbings heated jacket, heated trousers, heated soles.
Thin socks.

I don't know what being wet or cold is :-)

I get pretty fed up after a 200mile journey in non-stop rain to get wet when I walk the 150metres at the destination. Must. Take. Umbrella.
 
I used to have a brilliant thing called a "helmet pelmet" It fitted around the helmet,so when you put the helmet on, you had a waterproof sleeve that came down over your jacket collar. Stopped the wind and rain a treat.

Mine wore out, and I never found a replacement for it. I bought mine in Germany, so maybe they were just out there in pre internet days.

I'll have a hunt:thumb2

edit; It seems helmet pelmet has taken on a new meaning since I had mine! I think mine came from a ski centre somewhere, cross country skiiers use them maybe.
 
I used to have a brilliant thing called a "helmet pelmet" It fitted around the helmet,so when you put the helmet on, you had a waterproof sleeve that came down over your jacket collar. Stopped the wind and rain a treat.

Mine wore out, and I never found a replacement for it. I bought mine in Germany, so maybe they were just out there in pre internet days.

I'll have a hunt:thumb2

edit; It seems helmet pelmet has taken on a new meaning since I had mine! I think mine came from a ski centre somewhere, cross country skiiers use them maybe.


Its now called a helmet skirt
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Motrax-St...e-Helmet-Skirt-Strip-/270827757426#vi-content

busters do them, simpson do a huge one, just do a search on helmet skirt and view images
 
Wet Weather Gear

(I didn't know where to ask this, os it's on here:rolleyes:)
I really don’t mind the wet, as long as my gear has chance to dry out between trips. Recently I have been doing a lot of miles without chance for some stuff to dry. I am mainly talking about the lining of my helmet and my inner clothing caused by water soaking from my neck tube to inside my jacket.

Can anybody suggest any possible solutions other than several neck tubes (which I have) and having an additional waterproof jacket over my waterproofs (which I do).

I will be interested in the advice from the hardier types out there.

Stu.
Wouldn't describe myself as especially hardy, but do ride (30 mile round trip) to work for most of the year and have done so for 20+ year. Cannot afford goretex but find Hein-Gericke jacket with high mandarin type collar and muff good most of time with storm-collar brought out for especially severe conditions.
Tend to have 2 pair of gloves available, or use surgical gloves as liners, if wet glove use unavoidable. Recently considering Tucano h'bar muffs. Not too worried about looks but concerned that access to bars mite be restricted, as I tend to give hand signals. (belt'n'braces principal). Advice appreciated.
 
I really wish you hadn't put this in the 1200 section:blast

Where else? :comfort This is why I drop in here from time to time. :thumb

For the OP: You can cut the bell-end off a condom and stretch it over your crashhelmet and use the spigot-end over your jacket's collar to create the seal you desire. :toungincheek

PS: Not ribbed but flavoured is okay. :thumb
 
......as long as my gear has chance to dry out between trips. Recently I have been doing a lot of miles without chance for some stuff to dry. I am mainly talking about the lining of my helmet and my inner clothing caused by water soaking from my neck tube to inside my jacket.

Can anybody suggest any possible solutions other than several neck tubes (which I have) and having an additional waterproof jacket over my waterproofs (which I do).

I will be interested in the advice from the hardier types out there.

You are possibly asking two questions in one:

(1) How to prevent wet getting in


Depending on a host of imponderables, not least the overall quality of your kit, the volumes of water (and the time spent in it) and how dry you are when you set out, there is possibly one cause of your problem.

If we can just for a moment rule out kit that simply leaks, let's look at the most likely cause: wicking, probably caused by the neck tube. Wicking is when water runs along the fibres of certain materials, transfering water and dampness. It is very possible that your neck tube is carrying water down to your undershirt and and, where it is in close proximity to your helmet's neck roll / cheek pads, into your helmet. Once started, wicking becomes almost continuous, a virtual river of water if you like.

As there is little or no airflow into your jacket / helmet you are reliant on your body temperature to dry the damp material. Body heat is usually quite efficient, but not if it is cold outside (as it is at the moment) or there is a steady stream of damp wicking in.

Try without the neck tube, reverting to a simple and less bulky Buff or something similar just to keep the drafts and flying insects out.

(2) How to dry gear when it does get wet


Wet weather and motorcycles don't go together particularly well, but it doesn't really rain that often.... even in Rotherham.....

Good quality clothing made from Merino wool and some of the better artificial fibres will dry very much faster and wick much less than woollen or cotton based garments. OK they are not cheap but will, with care, last a long time even with regular use. They also have the real advantage of being really good insulators and less bulky, reducing the chances of fabric to outside air contact.

Drying. Hang the gear up so air can circulate around it; a coat hanger is good. In very warm rooms the 'one-way' qualities of Gortex are revered, water vapour getting dragged into the garment. If the inside of your gloves, boots and helmet are really damp, stuff them with crunched up newspaper. Like cloth, newspaper is made up of fibres, that all run in one direction. It is why a news sheet rips easily one way and not another. These same fibres will wick the dampness away, in the same way as it wicked in. The mass of the non-fibrous part of the newspaper will then help to soak up the dampness, rather like blotting paper absorbing spilt ink.

Don't put the helmet down on a table, the 'right way up'. You need the large open bottom free to let air in, not seal it up. Same with gloves. If you stuff them into your helmet they will not dry, the wicking qualiies of the helmet's liner will not help either. Try to hang the gloves so that warm air will circulate.

I hope the above is helpful.


(I didn't know where to ask this, os it's on here:rolleyes:)

The trick here is to think what the question involves and look whether they are other parts of the forum that might be more suitable.

Motorcycle clothing and wetness are not the sole preserve of 1200 riders. Nor does the question in any way relate to the technical inner workings of a 1200cc BMW motorcycle, any more than 'What helmet should I by?' or 'Where can I buy a present for my nephew?' or 'Should I remove my panniers at night when 100 yards from the safety of my settee?' or even, 'Should I go on an IAM course?'. There is a clothing and gear sub-section, just as there sections for travel, showing pictures, GPS devices, cars, computes, training and road skills, cooking and assorted others. For everything else there is 'the pub'.

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Enjoy your motorcycling 'experience' (everything is an 'experience' or a 'solution' these days) :thumb2


PS If all else fails on the dampness and weather protection front:

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Recently considering Tucano h'bar muffs. Not too worried about looks but concerned that access to bars mite be restricted, as I tend to give hand signals. (belt'n'braces principal). Advice appreciated.

Just invested in Muffs myself and had same comcerns.

They look pretty horrible, but in use are OK with no issues reaching controls for me and I am able to get hands in / out quite quickly on the move.

They are extremely warm (and dry) whereas by 7-8c it is starting to feel a bit chilly with just the heated grips and below 5c I got quite cold fingers, with the muffs I am really warm all the time, even with the temp around freezing I only need the grips on the first setting.
 
Any solutions to the experience of water running down the sleeves into the gloves? The gloves are waterproof but still end up soaked inside. Tried tightening gauntlet etc. Would muffs stop this plague - I mean experience?
 
Any solutions to the experience of water running down the sleeves into the gloves? The gloves are waterproof but still end up soaked inside. Tried tightening gauntlet etc. Would muffs stop this plague - I mean experience?

:blast
 
Any solutions to the experience of water running down the sleeves into the gloves? The gloves are waterproof but still end up soaked inside. Tried tightening gauntlet etc. Would muffs stop this plague - I mean experience?

Try this, although it's a bit radical: Tuck your gloves into your sleeve cuffs then get a pair of muffs for added security. :thumb It's worked for me for years.
 


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