Reluctantly selling my R80GS project bike

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I’ve just discovered that getting my R80GS project bike registered in France is going to cost me a small fortune because it will have to go through a full blown single vehicle approval process costing €4000!!!! So I’ve reluctantly decided to sell it. The full build has been documented here in the airhead section (new year, new project bike) and it has done just 1042 miles since then (700 of which were running it in). I’m really gutted about it. I’ve listed it in the sales and wanted section, but highlighting it here because I know it’s where the airhead aficionado hang out. PM if interestedIMG_1672.jpeg
 
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mikeyboy said:
Ok,bit naughty,but.
Buy a cheap derelict R80, French registered.
Swap the vin plate?
Obscure the stamped frame number.
Or is that approach to simplistic for froggy regs?
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I know nothing about the actual VIN plates and where the chassis numbers are, but my LandRover IIA was decidedly dodgy even though it was all legit. The VIN plate got burnt when it was torched during a rebuild so I bought a reproduction blank and stamped it myself (and you could tell) whilst the chassis rotted and was changed twice, so next to none of it was what came out of the factory (Bonnet, windscreen frame and one piece of glass and the entire roof and side panels were the only things I didn't 'rebuild')

I would think that buying a derelict and welding your frame number over, grind flush and restamp would be hard to check, especially if the other frame is cut into tiny segments and never sees the light of day?

As an alternative, buy a wreck and repair the chassis, then swap all your mechanics onto it?
 
NeverRodeBefore said:
I know nothing about the actual VIN plates and where the chassis numbers are, but my LandRover IIA was decidedly dodgy even though it was all legit. The VIN plate got burnt when it was torched during a rebuild so I bought a reproduction blank and stamped it myself (and you could tell) whilst the chassis rotted and was changed twice, so next to none of it was what came out of the factory (Bonnet, windscreen frame and one piece of glass and the entire roof and side panels were the only things I didn't 'rebuild')

I would think that buying a derelict and welding your frame number over, grind flush and restamp would be hard to check, especially if the other frame is cut into tiny segments and never sees the light of day?

As an alternative, buy a wreck and repair the chassis, then swap all your mechanics onto it?
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It is really easy on an old airhead,I know,I know.
But when faced with an insurance write off due to frame damage on a restored / historic/ valuable bike.
Which has been insured with a mainstream insurance company.
If you play by the rule book ,unfortunately you will get a proper fucking over.
Market value.
I’ll say no more on the matter.😆
 
Can you not get certificate of conformity for it.
 
There are forums for Brit bikes in France with some helpful people on there to tell you what to do to re=register your bike.
I took a Honda Hornet and a BMW F650 to France when we moved there 15 or so years ago.
We're back in the UK now but I did register both of those bikes in France.
It cost very little money, although in fairness it did come with a chunk of hassle.
It can be done.
Bon chance.
 
Hustler said:
There are forums for Brit bikes in France with some helpful people on there to tell you what to do to re=register your bike.
I took a Honda Hornet and a BMW F650 to France when we moved there 15 or so years ago.
We're back in the UK now but I did register both of those bikes in France.
It cost very little money, although in fairness it did come with a chunk of hassle.
It can be done.
Bon chance.
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Depends on age of bike. Very easy if newish and has CoC. Also easy if old and unmodified where it can be registered as a historic vehicle. But in the middle where it’s middle aged, has no CoC, and has been significantly modified, it’s a very expensive process as I’ve just discovered🙁
 
I assume it's the same problem with importing to any EU country or can it be registered in a less stringent EU country and then exported to France. All a load of hassle, what if you were to build one in France as you've done here would it be legal or is that restricted now.
 
Snaf said:
I assume it's the same problem with importing to any EU country or can it be registered in a less stringent EU country and then exported to France. All a load of hassle, what if you were to build one in France as you've done here would it be legal or is that restricted now.
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You can do what you want to a bike here after it’s registered. But to get it registered it has to be compliant with French regs
 
i had a punter with a similar problem , many years ago .
he tried importing 1 bike and 2 cars , fluent in French , kept being told NO !
found a mechanic in the next village , who said , i can do that . dropped off all paperwork , 1 week later, mech calls and says ....COME ON DOWN !
arrives to find new papers and plates . the frogs just didn't want HIM doing it .
T3 Guzzi and 2 old Citroens , all pre CoC .
 
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