Remap by Hilltop Motorcycles
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Some perspective here - my Superduke is surpose to make 118BHP at the crank straight out of the factory.
Fitted with Akros, BMC air filter and PCIII with custom mapping by SPR in Ruddington it now make that at the rear wheel which I was entirley happy with and it rides like a compleetly different bike.
See no reason why Hilltop cannot achieve 100+ BHP at the rear wheel on a 1200GS and may well pay them a vist when my twin cam has got a few more miles on the clock
Fitted with Akros, BMC air filter and PCIII with custom mapping by SPR in Ruddington it now make that at the rear wheel which I was entirley happy with and it rides like a compleetly different bike.
See no reason why Hilltop cannot achieve 100+ BHP at the rear wheel on a 1200GS and may well pay them a vist when my twin cam has got a few more miles on the clock
neoviper
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A First Class return ticket for Geoff and his laptop and access to a local Dyno should do it !! He may even give you a discount if it keeps raining in England
book my ticket lol
but on the other hand if you can get a lot to have it and access to a dyno we can talk
Goose
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book my ticket lol
but on the other hand if you can get a lot to have it and access to a dyno we can talk
Don't forget our offer
Have access to a super Dyno setup in Cape Town.... and with a bit of research, I'm sure we could get enough chaps to make it worthwhile.
Would like to know however - how many bikes you could do in a day?
REGS12
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book my ticket lol
but on the other hand if you can get a lot to have it and access to a dyno we can talk
There are 30 large reasons why I'm not inviting you to my shed. Then there's the dyno!
Sorry and cheers.
BMW have to worry about emmisions - Hilltop do not
Yep thats the main reason. Luckily there's still no emissions testing for bike MOT's.
No one seems that bothered by insurance? With performance gains such as those being quoted it would normally require notification to your insurers. Unless you take the risk of course which is made easier because how would they ever know......
Hey Paul what did your bike do at the wheel before all those mods ?
Some perspective here - my Superduke is surpose to make 118BHP at the crank straight out of the factory.
Fitted with Akros, BMC air filter and PCIII with custom mapping by SPR in Ruddington it now make that at the rear wheel which I was entirley happy with and it rides like a compleetly different bike.
See no reason why Hilltop cannot achieve 100+ BHP at the rear wheel on a 1200GS and may well pay them a vist when my twin cam has got a few more miles on the clock
neoviper
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Don't forget our offer
Have access to a super Dyno setup in Cape Town.... and with a bit of research, I'm sure we could get enough chaps to make it worthwhile.
Would like to know however - how many bikes you could do in a day?
i can do 5 to 6 in a day
Goose
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Ok - I will try an call you later today - I have serious interest generated and need to discuss!
Georgeeboi
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My triple black is only three months old and I'm thinking about it, I was going to spend £400 on a can but better off with the remap, I'm still a little bit sceptical though.
The pipe will look a lot a lot nicer and you'll get a chuck of money back on it
This reminds me of the accelerator module thread - I hope the site is receiving some commission
- or better still how about giving site members a discount 
This reminds me of the accelerator module thread - I hope the site is receiving some commission
- or better still how about giving site members a discount 
Why not just buy a more powerful bike from day one, and save all the grief?
There are plenty out there that will make a 1200GS (even a twippple bwack one) look very ordinary on the dyno print out front. Some may even have 'presence' too, which is nice. Though whether they will actually go any quicker from A to B to C is another matter entirely.
Failing that, source an HP2 Sport engine and bolt that in. It makes you wonder why BMW haven't done it, there is clearly a demand.... 130 bhp the easy way.... ah, yes it's a pain as you have to limit the rev's over the first mile or so before the engine gets up to full operating pressure and that carbon LCD dashboard isn't going to stand the rugged adventure pounding it will get on the way to the vegetable store.... and the servicing bills, scheeeech!
Easier still, don't load the bike up with assorted metal 'protection' bling from Mr Hooter, take the (empty) panniers off, they are carrying nothing but air and acting as a drag, scrap that larger front screen and damn the buffeting but do shed 28 pounds or more from the (average) rider's middle regions. The easiest and by far the cheapest aids to a better power-to-weight return you will make this week.
There are plenty out there that will make a 1200GS (even a twippple bwack one) look very ordinary on the dyno print out front. Some may even have 'presence' too, which is nice. Though whether they will actually go any quicker from A to B to C is another matter entirely.
Failing that, source an HP2 Sport engine and bolt that in. It makes you wonder why BMW haven't done it, there is clearly a demand.... 130 bhp the easy way.... ah, yes it's a pain as you have to limit the rev's over the first mile or so before the engine gets up to full operating pressure and that carbon LCD dashboard isn't going to stand the rugged adventure pounding it will get on the way to the vegetable store.... and the servicing bills, scheeeech!
Easier still, don't load the bike up with assorted metal 'protection' bling from Mr Hooter, take the (empty) panniers off, they are carrying nothing but air and acting as a drag, scrap that larger front screen and damn the buffeting but do shed 28 pounds or more from the (average) rider's middle regions. The easiest and by far the cheapest aids to a better power-to-weight return you will make this week.
Georgeeboi
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Or buy a 16 a wapping!
The 800 goes well, too.
This thread does make me think a lot of people are on the wrong bike - theres nothing wrong with the standard set up for the style off bike - doesn't it feel a bit odd lining up behind BSB, specials, et all your local Stan Stephens 
Its not all about getting the extra power. The issue I had with my GSA 3 years ago when I bought it was the low speed pickup and flatspot at 4.5K revs. I had problems with the bike stalling and was getting fed up with the engine either bogging down or dying completely when at low speed in second which typically included wet roundabouts. Nothing wrong with the bike according to the dealers so as I suspect many others have done, I went down the route of trying to solve this problem with open headers, fuel controllers etc. I have spent a lot more on sorting this issue (which I have managed to do eventually) than a remap would have cost had I known about it at the time. The extra power is great, don't get me wrong, but for me that wouldn't be the main reason for trying to sort the lean fueling issues out.
SynchroGS
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I dare say that there aren't many bikes owned by the riders on this 'ere forum that are totally 100%, out of the factory, standard. People will tinker and long may it continue. As bikers we treasure the fact that we are individuals.
Remapping worked for me on my ZZR1400 because it smoothed out the power curve. I didn't need more power or torque on that bike I can assure you! And it is for this reason I'll get the GSA done too. The extra power is a bonus - it is the way the power delivery is improved that makes it worthwhile. The fuelling is more suited to the bike and less suited to an emissions regulation. The torque improvement is an even better bonus in my opinion.
As with a lot of things all you can do is rely on testimonials until you have your own experience. I have had one bike remapped by Hilltop and I'll have this one done too. I believe it was good value or I wouldn't waste my money. It worked well on the ZZR engine and I can't see any reason why it wouldn't on the BMW - although not to the same extreme! But then I don't want that extreme on the BMW.
When I want to buy anything these days I always look for reviews on the internet. Whilst they don't make my choice for me, it allows me to identify weak points, plus points etc. I read user's opinions and this helps me to perform an initial evaluation before investigating further and forming my own opinion. In this case maybe we should set up a review thread ie 1-5 stars - value for money, performance gain, economy difference, top speed, solo riding, two-up - whatever. Get the positives and negatives out in the open. A lot of it will be subjective and personal opinion but so are all reviews. I have to say, reading back through this thread, that based on the opinions of people that have had it done there isn't anyone who wishes they hadn't or thought they'd wasted their money. The negative or sceptical comments have all come from people who have no direct experience of the remap on the R1200GS engine.
If enough people are interested perhaps we can buy a couple of days of Geoff's time for a dozen or so of us to go there and have it done or we could negotiate a group rate - other vendors offer UKGSER discounts after all.
If you want to have it done then get it done. If you don't then save your money, simple as.
Remapping worked for me on my ZZR1400 because it smoothed out the power curve. I didn't need more power or torque on that bike I can assure you! And it is for this reason I'll get the GSA done too. The extra power is a bonus - it is the way the power delivery is improved that makes it worthwhile. The fuelling is more suited to the bike and less suited to an emissions regulation. The torque improvement is an even better bonus in my opinion.
As with a lot of things all you can do is rely on testimonials until you have your own experience. I have had one bike remapped by Hilltop and I'll have this one done too. I believe it was good value or I wouldn't waste my money. It worked well on the ZZR engine and I can't see any reason why it wouldn't on the BMW - although not to the same extreme! But then I don't want that extreme on the BMW.
When I want to buy anything these days I always look for reviews on the internet. Whilst they don't make my choice for me, it allows me to identify weak points, plus points etc. I read user's opinions and this helps me to perform an initial evaluation before investigating further and forming my own opinion. In this case maybe we should set up a review thread ie 1-5 stars - value for money, performance gain, economy difference, top speed, solo riding, two-up - whatever. Get the positives and negatives out in the open. A lot of it will be subjective and personal opinion but so are all reviews. I have to say, reading back through this thread, that based on the opinions of people that have had it done there isn't anyone who wishes they hadn't or thought they'd wasted their money. The negative or sceptical comments have all come from people who have no direct experience of the remap on the R1200GS engine.
If enough people are interested perhaps we can buy a couple of days of Geoff's time for a dozen or so of us to go there and have it done or we could negotiate a group rate - other vendors offer UKGSER discounts after all.
If you want to have it done then get it done. If you don't then save your money, simple as.
neoviper
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i will look after the members of this forum and discount groups
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