Removing TPMS error codes

[Swell]

Morning all,
I’ve bought another pair of rims for my 2020 GSA. I don’t want to pay for TPMS so, thought I’d just use straight tubeless valves from Motorworks. I appreciate this will throw up error codes so, was wondering If it’s possible remove any error codes using a GS-911. I know the Schrader valves are cheaper but they still need coding and ‘waking up’.

 

[GSian]

Have you tried running them on the bike? With my 2023 GSA, if I don't code the wheels it just doesn't give a reading with no warning. But they are LDL sensors with the RDC unit in the keyless module.

But if you have GS-911 already, the waking up and coding is easy.

 

[GB.]

I think the latest software update on the GS911 lets you turn them off


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[Bmw Steve]

Morning all,
I’ve bought another pair of rims for my 2020 GSA. I don’t want to pay for TPMS so, thought I’d just use straight tubeless valves from Motorworks. I appreciate this will throw up error codes so, was wondering If it’s possible remove any error codes using a GS-911. I know the Schrader valves are cheaper but they still need coding and ‘waking up’.

Hi I have just found this thread I am also looking for a solution similar to yours, I have just got a 24 plate 1250 GSA with Gold spoked wheels, I have taken them off and put 1200GS cast alloy ones on for winter and would like to use the TPMS on the bike, I have had 2 previous 1250GS and know that they also had TPMS transmitters in the wheels. not knowing the age of the wheels it may be a case of replacing the sensors.

Problem: what type of sensors are in the later GS Cast wheels that were fitted to lets say a 2020 bike? not sure how old the cast wheels are that I purchased off eBay so in a difficult situation, the Batteries I think could be shot as they wont wake up or program using latest GS-911 Programmer.
Any help appreciated which ones do I look for that will fit the cast rims and will work with a 24 model bike.

 

[GSian]

The sensors on a pre 2020 bike will be Schrader ones, number: 36318532732. These will not work with a bike that has the combined Keyless/RDC unit that was put in bikes mid 2022. The 2020 wire wheels would have sensor part no: 36318567683. They are not cross compatible with the newer LDL sensors.

The bikes after the mid 2022 change will have LDL sensors; part no for cast wheels is: 36 31 7 106 019, Wire wheels it's part: 36317108983. To convert cast wheels you will need screw part no: 36317106018 too. (Wire would need screw part no; 36318359961).

To set up the LDL sensors you will need more than GS-911 and a simple wakeup device unless you have the 10 digit code number. BMW don't supply this with the sensors. The dealer can do it with their equipment but they'll want paying to do it. The sensors are about £130 a piece just for the parts. There is a way of doing it with an Autel TPMS unit but it's a bit involved. I can talk you through it if you have access to a unit once you get to that stage. Every time you change the wheels you need to use GS-911 to tell the system they're changed. At this point a simple wakeup device works as expected without the need for Autel. Crucial thing is that you keep the code numbers for each wheel. At the moment GS-911 only displays 9 digits of the 10, but I think it's being worked on by Hex.

There may be another way with Motoscan or ISTA or something.

Hope it's all understandable, it's a bit complex but I did it after a lot of messing about.

 

[Bmw Steve]

The sensors on a pre 2020 bike will be Schrader ones, number: 36318532732. These will not work with a bike that has the combined Keyless/RDC unit that was put in bikes mid 2022. The 2020 wire wheels would have sensor part no: 36318567683. They are not cross compatible with the newer LDL sensors.

The bikes after the mid 2022 change will have LDL sensors; part no for cast wheels is: 36 31 7 106 019, Wire wheels it's part: 36317108983. To convert cast wheels you will need screw part no: 36317106018 too. (Wire would need screw part no; 36318359961).

To set up the LDL sensors you will need more than GS-911 and a simple wakeup device unless you have the 10 digit code number. BMW don't supply this with the sensors. The dealer can do it with their equipment but they'll want paying to do it. The sensors are about £130 a piece just for the parts. There is a way of doing it with an Autel TPMS unit but it's a bit involved. I can talk you through it if you have access to a unit once you get to that stage. Every time you change the wheels you need to use GS-911 to tell the system they're changed. At this point a simple wakeup device works as expected without the need for Autel. Crucial thing is that you keep the code numbers for each wheel. At the moment GS-911 only displays 9 digits of the 10, but I think it's being worked on by Hex.

There may be another way with Motoscan or ISTA or something.

Hope it's all understandable, it's a bit complex but I did it after a lot of messing about.


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Wow that is helpful, I fully understand with what you have said in the thread it all adds up with the snippets I have gathered so far. I will order some sensors tomorrow from my BMW Merchant ££££££ : as I am going there tomorrow. I might as well use both sets of wheels as I had intended it will save me money long term instead of throwing away rubber when long Europe trips are on the agenda! We all know the TPMS is so reliable when riding. Thanks for your detailed help very good explanation.

 

[MAgnus.LPA]

Hi all.

Quick feedback on where to source a valve and TPMS, and their performance.

- I bought a valve and a TPMS on AliExpress
- £ 33,35 in total
- looks 100% like stock
- fitted on my front wheel
- works perfectly
- didn’t need any fiddling, was recognized after 10 minutes of riding
- I didn’t have to de inflate or re inflate the tyre.

In one word -> perfect.

My stock/original TPMS lasted 3 years (got dismantled inside my wheel after that, seems to have been destroyed by excess of heat). If this one lasts 3 years or more, it is EXCELLENT value for money.

Where I live, £33,35 is 25% of what I would have paid at BMW online.

If you need links to these 2 products, just reply here

Edit : Schrader or another brand, I believe it is the simple fact that it is plastic that prevents these from really lasting. They age with temperature changes, it’s as simple as that and there’s nothing we can do about it, as long as we use stock design. Based on these facts, we might as well go for the cheapest replacement solution, what do you think?

 

[GSian]

The Schrader TPMS units were only in bikes up to mid 2022. After that it's a complete different story. The Schrader units are not compatible with the newer LDL based TPMS that's built into the keyless module. As far as I'm aware, the newer LDL sensors are not available from AliExpress, yet.

 

[MAgnus.LPA]

The Schrader TPMS units were only in bikes up to mid 2022. After that it's a complete different story. The Schrader units are not compatible with the newer LDL based TPMS that's built into the keyless module. As far as I'm aware, the newer LDL sensors are not available from AliExpress, yet.

Interesting!

And do they break all the same, those new ones? :/

 

[Swell]

I recently discussed the issue over a brew at a dealership. The friendly bloke on the parts counter asked why I wanted TPMS on my new wheels, couldn't I just put up with the warning light and save myself the hassle and cost of fitting TPMS? I asked if the warning could be removed using GS-911 and he said yes. I've decided that a simple tubeless valve will do the job and I'll bypass the warning. The cost of a GS-911 and the valves will be similar to the cost of replacement TPMS. It's only recent bikes that have TPMS and I've been riding for for over 40 years without them so no issues here.

 

[GSian]

Interesting!

And do they break all the same, those new ones? :/

I would assume that the batteries go dead at some point. But not yet since they only started at the back end of 2022.

 

[RadioFlyer]

Lots of reports of Chinese sensors being DOA.

 

[MAgnus.LPA]

I would assume that the batteries go dead at some point. But not yet since they only started at the back end of 2022.

Yes you’re right. And after all, that would be perfectly normal. Batteries can’t last forever.

The thing is my original sensor broke in many little pieces inside of my tyre after a little less than 3 years. Which is why I thought sourcing one on Ali could be a good solution.

And it is, for now
It’s even as poorly accurate as the stock one in my back wheel haha

 

[GSian]

I very much doubt that the new type would break, it's made differently to the older Schrader ones. Smaller and don't have the resin filled battery area. I find these on my 2023 GSA to be accurate enough. Probably more so than most garage airlines.

They seem to be available aftermarket.

https://www.nippynormans.com/r1200r...0gs-and-many-more-see-fitments-and-note-below

 

[MAgnus.LPA]

I very much doubt that the new type would break, it's made differently to the older Schrader ones. Smaller and don't have the resin filled battery area. I find these on my 2023 GSA to be accurate enough. Probably more so than most garage airlines.

They seem to be available aftermarket.

https://www.nippynormans.com/r1200r...0gs-and-many-more-see-fitments-and-note-below

Very nice! Very good to know, thank you.