Dave78
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Anybody know if it is possible to restrict an 850 to 33bhp? If so how much is it likely to cost is how easy is it to do?
Cheers all
Cheers all
Restricting an 850?
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Acccording to these people you can
http://www.fiinternational.com/ShowDetails.asp?name=R850GS&type=BMW
http://www.fiinternational.com/ShowDetails.asp?name=R850GS&type=BMW
motobiker
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Restriction was the entire the reason for the 850s appearance.
you can pay £173 for the kit from FI. you dont get much for your money though.
or.. if you know someone in germany.. you can get the same thing direct from the supplier for 105 euros.
I don't think they will sell to the UK.. FI have a monopoly as alpha technik resellers.. I may be wrong about that... its what I've been told.
here's the alpha technik page for the 850
http://www.alphatechniksql.alphapla...f_Artikelansicht&ArtikelID=79&SternpaketeID=0
Personally... i think FI... are the worst rip-off merchants out there. ripping off youngsters who have to pay WAY OVER THE ODDS to get the bike they want restricted,.
My advice is.. don't go near them. FLY to germany if you must.
you can pay £173 for the kit from FI. you dont get much for your money though.
or.. if you know someone in germany.. you can get the same thing direct from the supplier for 105 euros.
I don't think they will sell to the UK.. FI have a monopoly as alpha technik resellers.. I may be wrong about that... its what I've been told.
here's the alpha technik page for the 850
http://www.alphatechniksql.alphapla...f_Artikelansicht&ArtikelID=79&SternpaketeID=0
Personally... i think FI... are the worst rip-off merchants out there. ripping off youngsters who have to pay WAY OVER THE ODDS to get the bike they want restricted,.
My advice is.. don't go near them. FLY to germany if you must.
Have you asked in your local dealer? They were available from BMW new in restricted form. It may not be any dearer to have them do it for you.
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dancata
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How does this restricter work?
motobiker
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Big Tip If you use the FI kit install the washers on the airbox side of the throttle bodies
If you put them at he head side the fuel doesn;t get a clear passage from the injector into the inlet and pools just outside the washer causing schit running at low speeds
Doing it the other way allows the engine to run right but still restricts ot
If you put them at he head side the fuel doesn;t get a clear passage from the injector into the inlet and pools just outside the washer causing schit running at low speeds
Doing it the other way allows the engine to run right but still restricts ot
Restricting an 850
Fit an aftermarket exhaust.
Worked a treat on my 1100....
Fit an aftermarket exhaust.
Worked a treat on my 1100....
Trullion
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Works on an 850 too (or at least it didn't improve mine much).
Can you just fit a restrictor, or do you need to get it certified?
As far as I know all the ones that came to the UK were full power ones, so restriction clearly isn't the sole raison d'etre of the 850. It was also an entry level bike, like the 883 H-D. Sorry, I'll go and wash my mouth out immediately.
Can you just fit a restrictor, or do you need to get it certified? As far as I know all the ones that came to the UK were full power ones, so restriction clearly isn't the sole raison d'etre of the 850. It was also an entry level bike, like the 883 H-D. Sorry, I'll go and wash my mouth out immediately.
blanc
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Seemingly there is a plug in control for motoworks for only 20 that restricts this bike to 33bhp.
its not the parts your paying for its the certificate !!!
you buy the kit and take it to shop it gets fitted by a mechanic and the shop the mechanic sign to say the work has been done, you then sign to say that you know its been restricted and that you wont knowingly de-restrict it.
you cant do it yourself
you buy the kit and take it to shop it gets fitted by a mechanic and the shop the mechanic sign to say the work has been done, you then sign to say that you know its been restricted and that you wont knowingly de-restrict it.
you cant do it yourself
blanc
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Yeah 20 for the bmw part and pay a bmw garage 50 for a two liner on headed paper! Worked for me on the same bike.
rce
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No certificate required, it is a load of money grabbing bollocks invented to con money out of the innocent.
If the bike is tested and found to be over the power limit then poo time, so just make sure it is restricted correctly and you are good to go.
That's a load of tosh invented by the people selling washers.
As above. The Certificate is just a method used by the washer sellers to justify charging a exorbitant price for their washers.
No body, Police, Insurance or anyone else will ask you to present a restriction certificate. However there is the possibility that the Police or the Insurance will ask for the bike to be tested. This is only possible if the bike was confiscated/impounded at the time on the incident. But in almost all cases the authorities will not bother because it will cost them money as it is up to them to prove the bike is not restricted and at their expence.
I don't know how many ponies the 850 has, but I do wonder why you would want to restrict such a heavy bike?
Val.
Nice to see some experts out there.
You are quite correct you can do it yourself, but it would be my advice not to, most insurance companies will require to see it, or some other proof that the vehicle is 33 bhp, dyno run possibly? that will probably cost more.
In addition if sombody else has done the work certified thats it been done correctly you have a defence if its not (all be it a small one)
When someone with a restricted licence is stopped and they cannot prove by production of a cert or similar that the vehicle being driven is restricted to 33bhp then they would be getting a ticket for riding other than in accordance of a licence probably no insurance as well and the vehicle would be impounded.
Oh as a matter of fact we have the individual trying to get his bike back from the car pound this week for just such an incident, and blow me his non restricted R1 still resides because with out proof that the work has been done, his insurance company wont insure him, and the pound wont give him the bike back.
In this particular case its not a restricted R1, but the clever clown stated at the roadside that he didnt need to prove anything and the officer had to take his word for it or get it tested, guess what old bill one, gobby R1 owner Nil. Its up to you to PROVE that the vehicle is only 27kw
Both my son and daughter were asked to supply proof of the restriction of the vehicle and so was my sons girlfriend.
When my son was involved in and accident he was required to provided it to the police, and we get loads in for driving other than in accordance because they cannot prove that the vehicle is one they are entitled to ride.
Now of course you can carry on secure in the knowledge that you are right, next time you are in London go through the ANPR operation on the A40, and I may even make you a cup of tea whilst you are trying to get your bike out of the car pound, best of luck.
Rockoz
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Just don't bother restricting it..... What a complete waste of money. There's no such thing as a legal 'restriction certificate' although FI international claim they sell one. Bunch of overpriced idiots. Don;t do 150 running from the police and they chance of them ever complaining is slim to none.....
Rockoz
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Word is quite nice for making restriction 'certificate's on.........
rce
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The R1 isn't restricted so therefore it would be inpounded.
No legal basis for a certificate, and no offical format of any so called proof.
Easy way fit a kit, then print out a suitable power curve with the name of a suitable company and keep it with your documents.
I went through all this when a mate wanted to buy a 400 superdream from me, the 400 had a dyno print out so I tried to find out if this was good enough proof. Tried talking to the dyno company, who had gone bust so no joy, so talked to DVLA who put me on to VOSA, who gave me the low down on not needing any documented proof.
Does anyone know if this is true? Can't see one on their site, but then it is a huge site.
Thinking of letting my lad use my 850 now he's passed his test, and that I've bought my mates 1150.
motobiker
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Give them a call on Monday and ask... you never know, they might have a 'proper' kit on their 2nd hand parts shelf from a 'broken' bike.
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