Rhayder Disaster - A tale of woe. . . . .

Easy does it....

Greg Masters said:
LC4 Enduro - 148Kg
(LC4 Supermoto - 149Kg)
525 EXC - 113Kg
Greg

Go easy Greg!
Now I've road some lanes in my time and that area is very familiar to me. The Rhayder Mountain Road is the first lane of the day, true enough an excellent warm up, it is also one of the easiest.
Forget the idea of I got a big road bike so I will handle a big trail bike.
You will be getting very disheartened, very fast. Being stuck with a hulk will be no fun, I've seen this time and time before. Exhausted riders struggling and other members in the party getting mighty pi**ed off and cold whilst your sqirmming with your steed.
First bike: Trail type electric start (favorable), 250/350, 4stroke (Fav), no excessive seat height or weight as you will be having to pick it up.
Save the thoroughbreds for a year or two later.
Now I am dead sure that a few replies to this post will give me a slagging for this, but if you are after venturing any further West into Wales than you got on that LC4, I'd like to witness it and post pics for the critics to see.
Clean it, fix it, put it in the shed covered or fit supermotard wheels for a while, pick up a Biketrader and purchase a Serow, TTR, DR-SE, CRM or XR to get out on and learn the ropes, they are all hard bikes and can take no-end of bangs and falls.
I hope this post will offer some advice..
Best of luck.
Timpo.
 
Timpo said:
First bike: Trail type electric start ....
At my age, every bike is going to have a leccy start.

During the Wales Trails two weekends ago, I saw too many fit men exhausting themselves trying to kick stalled bikes.

Unless you have legs like Popeye, buy a bike with an electric (and kick-) start and make sure that it has a decent battery.

Greg
 
My little XR 400 now has electric start!! Was hoping to go and play with Greg in Wales before work got in the way (on way back from France). The new electrics has a new spark generator box which makes it easier to kick start as well. Quite fun having the option.
 
Mark Dilloway said:
Was hoping to go and play with Greg in Wales before work got in the way (on way back from France).

Next time we go for a rideout - make sure your diary's clear!!

:thumb

Greg
 
Timpo said:
Go easy Greg!
Now I've road some lanes in my time and that area is very familiar to me. The Rhayder Mountain Road is the first lane of the day, true enough an excellent warm up, it is also one of the easiest.
Forget the idea of I got a big road bike so I will handle a big trail bike.
You will be getting very disheartened, very fast. Being stuck with a hulk will be no fun, I've seen this time and time before. Exhausted riders struggling and other members in the party getting mighty pi**ed off and cold whilst your sqirmming with your steed.
First bike: Trail type electric start (favorable), 250/350, 4stroke (Fav), no excessive seat height or weight as you will be having to pick it up.
Save the thoroughbreds for a year or two later.
Now I am dead sure that a few replies to this post will give me a slagging for this, but if you are after venturing any further West into Wales than you got on that LC4, I'd like to witness it and post pics for the critics to see.
Clean it, fix it, put it in the shed covered or fit supermotard wheels for a while, pick up a Biketrader and purchase a Serow, TTR, DR-SE, CRM or XR to get out on and learn the ropes, they are all hard bikes and can take no-end of bangs and falls.
I hope this post will offer some advice..
Best of luck.
Timpo.

100% correct and well said - I much preferred a 250 to 400 XR :thumb
 
I wonder how SWMBO would react to bike number 3.... :D :D

I'm going to keep playing for the moment, and see where I get to. All good advice to bear in mind though.

I'll see what progress I make.. . . . I'm not an especially fit person though, and the LC4e is quite heavy. . . .
 
Greg Masters said:
Hmm, maybe contemplate a smaller/lighter bike too!

At nearly 150Kgs, it's a bit lardy for a trail bike. IMHO you want to be looking for something much closer to 100-110Kgs.

Greg

I must agree with Greg.
A lot of people seem to take up trail riding on 400cc + bikes.

Anything of this size and above is a real hand full off road.
More fun can be had on a smaller bike.
I have seen many rider's over the years start on big bike's and end up falling off and either hurting them self's,or finding it to hard and not enjoying it.

Maybe get a cheap trail bike,and keep the Very Nice KTM for when you get a good feel for the dirt.

Hope you keep it up.
 
hey toady,

Depending on how well you know your KTM dealer,would it not be possible to go and explain that you find the LC4 too lumbering and see if he'll do you a deal on something more manageable ?


Something like this little beaut perhaps :





I'm toying with getting one myself to have something cheaper and stonger to trash off road before I take the GSA or SE in the dirt (after the Level One course next year)
 
Well done guys - that's the easy way round

Anyway, I have now started "Burt's Off Road School" Anyone welcome - The Toad is my first customer - can show anyone the ropes in and around the Cotswolds.

It's free!

Burt
 
BurtieBoy said:
Anyway, I have now started "Burt's Off Road School" Anyone welcome - The Toad is my first customer - can show anyone the ropes in and around the Cotswolds.

It's free!

Burt

And reccomended :thumb :thumb
 
Cheers mate

You can have a 20% voucher on the free course for a weekend to suit you and the misses.

;)
 
Why is .....

Why is no one really bothered about us f***ing the Shogun up ? It's gonna be really expensive - and may delay the purchase of a 1200 Adventure !!
 
BurtieBoy said:
Why is no one really bothered about us f***ing the Shogun up ? It's gonna be really expensive - and may delay the purchase of a 1200 Adventure !!

'Cos it's a bike site, full of bikers :rolleyes:

I'm sure that if you find the equivalent Mitsubishi site they'll give you loads of sympathy :driving :fiddle :D
 
BurtieBoy said:
Why is no one really bothered about us f***ing the Shogun up ? It's gonna be really expensive - and may delay the purchase of a 1200 Adventure !!


I am - We've got nothing to tow the bikes with now ;) ;)
 
Still broken?

thetoad said:
I am - We've got nothing to tow the bikes with now.

Cylinder head gasket should of been repaired by now, come on get a move on!
There's another weekend approaching, get the truck fixed, it'll take about five hours to do that job, providing no cylinder head damage is found.

Timpo.
 
motorway

well if it's any smoother than that you may as well stay on the road :D

Greg Masters said:
Sounds like here:

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Greg
 


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