My BMW 3 series is £350, nearly died, the C3 was only £30. This climate change crap is just an excuse to milk the motorist, same with speed cameras ULEZ parking and the rest.
Road Tax Rates
- Thread starter Mallard
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It's not £88... it's £91.
When did it go up? October?!!!
Can't believe some of the comparisons on here. It really has gone nuts. Makes me mad. Bikes have been a part of the solution forever but they're almost always treated like cars
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When did it go up? October?!!!
Can't believe some of the comparisons on here. It really has gone nuts. Makes me mad. Bikes have been a part of the solution forever but they're almost always treated like cars
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It’s a pity that since you can only drive one vehicle at a time, there is not a multi vehicle VED...
Range Rover £550
Ducati 749 £50 (6 months)
1200GSA. £91
Wife’s Mini 1.6 diesel (apparently 99g of CO2/km) is VED free, you can’t tell me this is less polluting than the GS!
Cheers
Dave
Range Rover £550
Ducati 749 £50 (6 months)
1200GSA. £91
Wife’s Mini 1.6 diesel (apparently 99g of CO2/km) is VED free, you can’t tell me this is less polluting than the GS!
Cheers
Dave
Road tax or VED. Which one don't we pay?
Pictures, please.
I presume, no, I know that’s why they changed the name, cos let’s face it, feck all is spent on the roads (up here anyway!)
Cheers
Dave
P.S, I also have a few bicycles, so with the collective amount I spend on VED, that surely entitles me to fart all I want!
Sold my fave ever car, a 2007 Lexus GS300 once tax for it hit £495 a year a few years back. Smoothest ever 3 litre petrol Vee 6 which happened to be relatively frugal too, and utterly reliable. Replaced it with a 3.5 V6 RX450h....and now pay £135 road tax. That little "h" moniker brings down the Co2...only for throttle settings used to determine it in the official EU tests. In reality it probably pollutes more than my older 3 litre....how can it not, hauling 2.3 tonnes about and using more fuel?
The joke for years has been how those particulate spewing oil burners getting away with low tax. How perceptions change! C02 should not be the only measure because road tax is also meant for road upkeep. Electric vehicles ditto...why should electric vehicle owners get away scot-free? Does it not take energy to make their tin cans and to top up their batteries? Just because the power station isn't under the hood doesn't mean that the energy collected from it isn't stored on board. No wonder Tesla laughed all the way to the bank...Ludicrous! About time all these electric bikes now making an appearance on our roads were taxed and insured.. come to that...
OK...some comparisons may be a tad tongue in cheek but once upon a time road tax had bog all to do with climate change and more to do with the upkeep of our carriageways. It has been hijacked as just another tax revenue stream. Car makers could still have been obliged to clean their acts up without hitting the motorist annually for driving their chosen steeds. The GS above is a good example. I would probably have kept that car 10 years or more....it was utterly reliable, roomy, comfy and built like a Bentley. Instead incentives are given to scrapping older cars and replacing them with newer ones so this helps the climate how? Has anyone done the sums on carbon footprint of changing cars every few years for new ones? Climate change bunkum. I would happily has driven my old Lexus about with it supping fuel to return more mpg than my newer supposedly cleaner car. 44mpg motorway for example V's 32mpg for the 450h at 70mph. Reality is often not in step with revenue policies nor with the reality of whole life carbon footprints.
The joke for years has been how those particulate spewing oil burners getting away with low tax. How perceptions change! C02 should not be the only measure because road tax is also meant for road upkeep. Electric vehicles ditto...why should electric vehicle owners get away scot-free? Does it not take energy to make their tin cans and to top up their batteries? Just because the power station isn't under the hood doesn't mean that the energy collected from it isn't stored on board. No wonder Tesla laughed all the way to the bank...Ludicrous! About time all these electric bikes now making an appearance on our roads were taxed and insured.. come to that...
OK...some comparisons may be a tad tongue in cheek but once upon a time road tax had bog all to do with climate change and more to do with the upkeep of our carriageways. It has been hijacked as just another tax revenue stream. Car makers could still have been obliged to clean their acts up without hitting the motorist annually for driving their chosen steeds. The GS above is a good example. I would probably have kept that car 10 years or more....it was utterly reliable, roomy, comfy and built like a Bentley. Instead incentives are given to scrapping older cars and replacing them with newer ones so this helps the climate how? Has anyone done the sums on carbon footprint of changing cars every few years for new ones? Climate change bunkum. I would happily has driven my old Lexus about with it supping fuel to return more mpg than my newer supposedly cleaner car. 44mpg motorway for example V's 32mpg for the 450h at 70mph. Reality is often not in step with revenue policies nor with the reality of whole life carbon footprints.
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