Route Advice - Southern Germany to Mid West France

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Hi Guys,

Does anyone have any route experience from Southern Germany to Western France. Specifically I will be traveling from Neuschwanstienstrasse, Germany to a place near La Rochelle, France.

Any roads not to miss? Routes to avoid like the plague? I won't be in a hurry so don't need M/Ways.

Any advice much appreciated.

Oh and MERRY CHRISTMAS.

Mike
 
Skipssong said:
Hi Guys,

Does anyone have any route experience from Southern Germany to Western France. Specifically I will be traveling from Neuschwanstienstrasse, Germany to a place near La Rochelle, France.

Any roads not to miss? Routes to avoid like the plague? I won't be in a hurry so don't need M/Ways.

Any advice much appreciated.

Oh and MERRY CHRISTMAS.

Mike
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la rochelle is nice , unfortunately roads in my experience on route were crap however we were travelling from brussells.
 
go towards djon and head in dircection of clermand-ferrand ..... once you miss the big stuff you can't go wrong in france
 
Could you not run through Switzerland and take in a couple of passes, and then cut accross the Vosges?

If your not in a hurry maybe stop for a couple of nights somewhere, Andermatt would be my choice in the Alps, or Munster in the Vosges.

Don't know about any areas further west, but Maps can be great things for route planning and not only show where roads go but how windy they are :thumb2

Google Maos is a good place to start, look for twisty alternatives and use streetview to checkout any roads your unsure of in greater detail.
 
The roads around La Rochelle are, by French standards, a little boring.
En route around Clermont Ferrand is good of course.
If you like beaches then bimble down south from La Rochelle for about 40 miles to St. Georges de Didonne.
 
Skipssong said:
Specifically I will be traveling from Neuschwanstienstrasse, Germany
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When, in the hope of helping you, I Google Mapped the name, I got the choice of three streets, not a town.

Any clues? I guess around Munich, as you say southern Germany?

Not in a hurry means what? Two days? Three days? Seven? More?

As much as I hate it, a very swift Google route click, avoiding motorways and toll roads shows (not unsurprisingly, perhaps) a near enough straight line east to west of about 800 miles. Let's guess that might take you three days, if you are not in a hurry.

Pull the line south to Clermont Ferrand, it doesn't add that much more.

Pulling it way south to around Albi, then swinging north to La Rochelle takes the basic line to closer to 1,100 miles. Let's say four days, perhaps?

Either way, you will probably want to / have to (depending on when you are going, as you haven't said whether it's next week or next July) stay north of those pesky Alps south of Munich, at least as far as say Basel.

From this, you can probably work out that it's very easy to plot something yourself, based on what you want to do, when and where. A nicely scaled map 1:200000 is good for the fine detail and a bigger scale for the 'big picture'.... even the dreaded Google maps at a pinch.
 
Wapping said:
That'll be here then:

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=Neu...&cid=0,0,14458391451389508515&t=m&z=9&vpsrc=6
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That's the place Mr Wapping. I was planning a bike holiday through Belgium and Germany, a circular route Rothenburg - Bamburg - Augsburg - Neuschwansteinstrasse coming back through Baden Baden next May. Thing is we've just been invited to a party in La Foret de Tesse (about 50 miles East of La Rochelle) so I was thinking of breaking the circle at Neuschwansteinstrasse and cutting across to Tesse. It's not that I don't know how to use a map but there's nothing like experience and there's a lot of experience in the GSer crowd; hence my question.

Thanks for the responses so far guys.

Mike
 
Skipssong said:
That's the place Mr Wapping. so I was thinking of breaking the circle at Neuschwansteinstrasse and cutting across to Tesse.
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OK, once again. How many days do you (and your pillion) have in mind to do the 800 odd miles? I'll give up asking when, as if it's February it may well be snowing.

Is there anywhere in France that you might like too see en-route? You see, you could take in the ever popular 'must-does' of the gorges and / or the Milau. But they are a reasonably long way from the basic east to west approach and bugger all good if you really only have three days and want to potter about.

I suggest you follow roughly the line:

Castle thing

Mulhouse (take in the museum, if that appeals)

Vesoul

Besancon

Dole

Beaune (take in the old hospital, if that appeals)

Autun

Moulins

Riom / Clerrmont-F

Limoges

La Rochelle

You will see what roads might appeal looking at your map / what time you have / what you want to do.
 
Wapping said:
OK, once again. How many days do you (and your pillion) have in mind to do the 800 odd miles? I'll give up asking when, as if it's February it may well be snowing.

Is there anywhere in France that you might like too see en-route? You see, you could take in the ever popular 'must-does' of the gorges and / or the Milau. But they are a reasonably long way from the basic east to west approach and bugger all good if you really only have three days and want to potter about.

I suggest you follow roughly the line:

Castle thing

Mulhouse (take in the museum, if that appeals)

Vesoul

Besancon

Dole

Beaune (take in the old hospital, if that appeals)

Autun

Moulins

Riom / Clerrmont-F

Limoges

La Rochelle

You will see what roads might appeal looking at your map / what time you have / what you want to do.
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Thanks again Mr W. I'm currently thinking of two weeks all in but I do have a degree of flexibility and didn't want to firm up until I had a route and associated 'visits' sorted.

Your list above has given me something to think about so I'll have a play with Basecamp and see what happens.

Thanks again, very much appreciated. And again....Merry Christmas!!
 
Have a gander in the 80 Virees stickies, you may well be able to cobble something together out of several routes.

If you look at the 'Whole of France' http://dl.dropbox.com/u/14126843/Whole of France.gdb

you should be able to work out near enough how to ride the line I suggested, cutting and pasting parts of the various routes.

Also have a look at, post #8

http://www.ukgser.com/forums/showthread.php?t=281176

If you want to dance about a bit around the Massif Central

:beerjug:


PS Would be interesting to see what you come up with. Horizontal routes across countries (France at least) are not so common, but by no means impossible.
 
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