RT or GSA

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Have now sold my bike and am looking for my next steed.

I am pretty much up for a GSA but have a slight itch in the RT department.

Wind blast weather protection long trips down to Italy etc.

Just wondering if any body has gone from GS to RT or vice versa

I have about 10K
is it worth borrowing a few more squid and going for a twin cam


and yes I can make my own mind up
 
Went from 12GSA to 12RT.

GSA is more fun but wife got seriously pissed off with getting shitted up on long hauls into EU if weather was bad.

So swapped for RT. Does the job but not fun.

PS: RT will save you a fortune in fuel.
 
I've had both RT & GSA (current) and have toured Europe two up on both; to be honest there both fantastic for the job and i enjoyed each of them, i guess in different ways but it's all about the travelling. Hopefully the following will offer some help but obviously its very personal to each and every one of us and is only my view on the bikes:

I'ts funny but the pros for the RT are also the cons; the big plus on the RT would have to be seen as the fairing which is superb and keeps you dry and comfortable on a long trip in particular in the rain and with the right replacement screen (cee baileys in my instance) i could achieve such quietness that i could listen to radio 4 talking at about 80mph on the bikes speakers!! Having talked of perfection now comes the cons side; in particular travelling in southern Europe the fantastic fairing suddenly becomes a bit of a drag mainly down to heat - obviously its designed to keep airflow off you which i found included much needed cool air (boy can it get hot)

The GSA in turn doesn't have a fairing but the design is very clever in that the screen configuration (no need for alternative on this for me) and side tanks act very similar to having a fairing, not to the same degree as the RT but actually enough to keep a lot of the rain off. However this ensures that when in very hot conditions i found that you do get better air flow which for me was very good; i guess its all about comprimise.

The other differences are probably obvious but i'll comment anyhow; the RT is quieter and for me felt a bit smoother, and the GSA feels a bit more like a snorting bull that you do have control of but always feels like its alive and 'snorting' (actually i love this bit about the bike as it feels alive - the RT is so competent and smooth but lacks that aliveness)

One of the big differences i found is the GSA is much more manouevrable in the handling and in particular through the tighter bends; looking back on the RT it felt heavier on the front end and i tend to ride quicker (but not as quick as some) with the GSA than the RT.

From a two up point of view i didn't find much difference with passanger on either bike; both took it in their stride. My wife bizzarley finds the GSA rear seat more comfortable than the RT and i think it comes down to the width of seat (and no she's not a big wide girl!!) and the secure feeling she gets with the ali panniers and top box - it just feels so solid.

We find the carrying capability of the GSA far better than the RT; the RT large top case being good capacity but overhangs back end a bit too much, in particular if loaded, without having some effect. The ai panniers hold much more for the two up or solo camping and have little or no effect on the bike; also i find it easier strapping stuff on the GSA - it just seems to act like a big flatback lorry when you want or need to load it.

With the GSA i also find that when visiting the 'castle' down the rough track is something you don't need to think twice about unlike the RT which you have to make a judgemment.

I'm going to stop now as the more i type the more likely i'll want to keep my GSA and lack of work prospect tells me otherwise; in fact i've managed to depress myself at the thought of it going:blast

Anyhow both bike are great in differing ways; you will be happy whichever you go for and i can only sum it up as follows:

The RT is like that uncle who was smooth sophisticated had a good job nice wife etc etc and the GSA was like the uncle who was a bit of a lad, lived a on the edge, liked the ladies, was funny, had a cool motorbike and although your parents dissaproved off it 'You wanted to be just like him when you grew up'

Enjoy the decision making; all part of the fun:thumb2
 
IIRC when Bike magazine wasn't only about the very latest race rep, they had the quote that tourer style bikes were great for getting there, but not as much fun when you were there.

Does an RT etc really keep you that much cleaner compared to a GS?
 
IIRC when Bike magazine wasn't only about the very latest race rep, they had the quote that tourer style bikes were great for getting there, but not as much fun when you were there.

Does an RT etc really keep you that much cleaner compared to a GS?

I would agree strongly with you re first point and second for the rider, but passenger on GSA does pick up a bit more road shit when wet and crappy however that can be overcome with mud slingers or whatever there called - my wife just puts an aldi oversuit on top of her leathers when conditions ain't good and that sorts that out:D
 
I've had both RT & GSA (current) and have toured Europe two up on both; to be honest there both fantastic for the job and i enjoyed each of them, i guess in different ways but it's all about the travelling. Hopefully the following will offer some help but obviously its very personal to each and every one of us and is only my view on the bikes:

I'ts funny but the pros for the RT are also the cons; the big plus on the RT would have to be seen as the fairing which is superb and keeps you dry and comfortable on a long trip in particular in the rain and with the right replacement screen (cee baileys in my instance) i could achieve such quietness that i could listen to radio 4 talking at about 80mph on the bikes speakers!! Having talked of perfection now comes the cons side; in particular travelling in southern Europe the fantastic fairing suddenly becomes a bit of a drag mainly down to heat - obviously its designed to keep airflow off you which i found included much needed cool air (boy can it get hot)

The GSA in turn doesn't have a fairing but the design is very clever in that the screen configuration (no need for alternative on this for me) and side tanks act very similar to having a fairing, not to the same degree as the RT but actually enough to keep a lot of the rain off. However this ensures that when in very hot conditions i found that you do get better air flow which for me was very good; i guess its all about comprimise.

The other differences are probably obvious but i'll comment anyhow; the RT is quieter and for me felt a bit smoother, and the GSA feels a bit more like a snorting bull that you do have control of but always feels like its alive and 'snorting' (actually i love this bit about the bike as it feels alive - the RT is so competent and smooth but lacks that aliveness)

One of the big differences i found is the GSA is much more manouevrable in the handling and in particular through the tighter bends; looking back on the RT it felt heavier on the front end and i tend to ride quicker (but not as quick as some) with the GSA than the RT.

From a two up point of view i didn't find much difference with passanger on either bike; both took it in their stride. My wife bizzarley finds the GSA rear seat more comfortable than the RT and i think it comes down to the width of seat (and no she's not a big wide girl!!) and the secure feeling she gets with the ali panniers and top box - it just feels so solid.

We find the carrying capability of the GSA far better than the RT; the RT large top case being good capacity but overhangs back end a bit too much, in particular if loaded, without having some effect. The ai panniers hold much more for the two up or solo camping and have little or no effect on the bike; also i find it easier strapping stuff on the GSA - it just seems to act like a big flatback lorry when you want or need to load it.

With the GSA i also find that when visiting the 'castle' down the rough track is something you don't need to think twice about unlike the RT which you have to make a judgemment.

I'm going to stop now as the more i type the more likely i'll want to keep my GSA and lack of work prospect tells me otherwise; in fact i've managed to depress myself at the thought of it going:blast

Anyhow both bike are great in differing ways; you will be happy whichever you go for and i can only sum it up as follows:

The RT is like that uncle who was smooth sophisticated had a good job nice wife etc etc and the GSA was like the uncle who was a bit of a lad, lived a on the edge, liked the ladies, was funny, had a cool motorbike and although your parents dissaproved off it 'You wanted to be just like him when you grew up'

Enjoy the decision making; all part of the fun:thumb2
Good right up and up to press, with my recent change, I agree.

You have to make the RT play but the GS wants to.
 
Recently gone from a Ducati MTS1000 to an RT.

I originally looked at the GS but wanted to stick with 17" wheels & tyres and 320mm discs. The RT also offered a bigger tank than the regular GS (but not the GSA) and the fairing. Panniers were included in the price too.

I'm sure the RT and GS are both different approaches towards the perfect bike, but for me the RT had the edge.

Mark
 
Concur with support above for RT I have a 56 plate from new - no problems commuting, touring Europe, even may it to the Artic Circle with a GS in tow on some of Swedens Forest tracks. I couldn't bear to part with it but wanted something lighter for the local tracks so it has been joined by an 800GS - heaven. HTB1
 
R1150 RT to R1200 GSA

had a R1150 RT myself , a 02 model, cracking bike. Drove it to Slovenia from Ireland with the missus and a wedding dress strapped on the top box for our wedding over there , then spent the rest of the month on the bike for the honeymoon..

she loved the RT.. doesn't like the GSA at all. Says its too high on the back and not as comfy as the RT. The RT is the better 2 up bike IMHO

I did notice the GSA sucks more fuel over a longer distance at higher speeds, especially with the panniers on. The RT would rally along at 90mph



if I had it to do over again, I would have kept my RT and bought a second hand GSA... galls me to say it (now that I bought the GSA).. but it would have been the best of both worlds
 
What would you like your new bike to do?,good weather protection all day long touring,but dull looking then the RT,GS cheap alloy wheeled road hack with small tank and plastic luggage good for pretending its a GSA,or GSA that will let you down eventually but make you both laugh out loud and behave like a hooligan each and every time you ride it...
 
RT if you want to ride around quicker than you'd like to, but feel like you are cruising.

GS if you want to feel you are travelling faster than you are and want to off road a little.

For mile munching the RT is far far better than a GS:thumb
 
I've had both RT & GSA (current) and have toured Europe two up on both; to be honest there both fantastic for the job and i enjoyed each of them, i guess in different ways but it's all about the travelling. Hopefully the following will offer some help but obviously its very personal to each and every one of us and is only my view on the bikes:

I'ts funny but the pros for the RT are also the cons; the big plus on the RT would have to be seen as the fairing which is superb and keeps you dry and comfortable on a long trip in particular in the rain and with the right replacement screen (cee baileys in my instance) i could achieve such quietness that i could listen to radio 4 talking at about 80mph on the bikes speakers!! Having talked of perfection now comes the cons side; in particular travelling in southern Europe the fantastic fairing suddenly becomes a bit of a drag mainly down to heat - obviously its designed to keep airflow off you which i found included much needed cool air (boy can it get hot)

The GSA in turn doesn't have a fairing but the design is very clever in that the screen configuration (no need for alternative on this for me) and side tanks act very similar to having a fairing, not to the same degree as the RT but actually enough to keep a lot of the rain off. However this ensures that when in very hot conditions i found that you do get better air flow which for me was very good; i guess its all about comprimise.

The other differences are probably obvious but i'll comment anyhow; the RT is quieter and for me felt a bit smoother, and the GSA feels a bit more like a snorting bull that you do have control of but always feels like its alive and 'snorting' (actually i love this bit about the bike as it feels alive - the RT is so competent and smooth but lacks that aliveness)

One of the big differences i found is the GSA is much more manouevrable in the handling and in particular through the tighter bends; looking back on the RT it felt heavier on the front end and i tend to ride quicker (but not as quick as some) with the GSA than the RT.

From a two up point of view i didn't find much difference with passanger on either bike; both took it in their stride. My wife bizzarley finds the GSA rear seat more comfortable than the RT and i think it comes down to the width of seat (and no she's not a big wide girl!!) and the secure feeling she gets with the ali panniers and top box - it just feels so solid.

We find the carrying capability of the GSA far better than the RT; the RT large top case being good capacity but overhangs back end a bit too much, in particular if loaded, without having some effect. The ai panniers hold much more for the two up or solo camping and have little or no effect on the bike; also i find it easier strapping stuff on the GSA - it just seems to act like a big flatback lorry when you want or need to load it.

With the GSA i also find that when visiting the 'castle' down the rough track is something you don't need to think twice about unlike the RT which you have to make a judgemment.

I'm going to stop now as the more i type the more likely i'll want to keep my GSA and lack of work prospect tells me otherwise; in fact i've managed to depress myself at the thought of it going:blast

Anyhow both bike are great in differing ways; you will be happy whichever you go for and i can only sum it up as follows:

The RT is like that uncle who was smooth sophisticated had a good job nice wife etc etc and the GSA was like the uncle who was a bit of a lad, lived a on the edge, liked the ladies, was funny, had a cool motorbike and although your parents dissaproved off it 'You wanted to be just like him when you grew up'

Enjoy the decision making; all part of the fun:thumb2

Melly Senior, didn't know you were having problems with you're employment.
Hope ya sort something out real soon and don't have to sell the GSA.

Great report above by the way, learn't a lot about the different compromises, even though I have not owned an RT

Good luck and best regards Stretch :thumb2
 
Having gone from a GS to RT, I am now in the process of going back to a GS.

Why the changing back and forth, loved the GS, but was planning, and did more longer tours and less fun rides, for this the RT was outstanding, all day comfort and made to ride long distances. Move on a year and my personal circumstances have changed and I now find myself owning a bike not ideal for my useage now.

So I'll hopefully be going back to the neck creasing long distance tourer that the GS will be, btu safe in the knowledge that back roads and the like will be way more enjoyable to ride than on the RT

I love the RT, but the GS is more fun to ride.
 


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