Santa wants advice

[enabb]

Daughter wants a new pc monitor (lcd) off santa

Now santa has,nt got a clue what spec to look for, or where to buy from

Any ex santa,s out there help


cheers, santa

 

[Fanum]

Buy PC Shopper tommorrow (Or PC Pro)......they have some pretty good reviews and best buy articles and some good deals as well

They also do a jargon busting thing so you'll know about responce time and other bits n bobs and will be able to better match monitors to needs (ie if it's used for games, you need a good responce time (=/<8ms for example)

 

[Steve]

Daughter wants a new pc monitor (lcd) off santa

Now santa has,nt got a clue what spec to look for, or where to buy from

Check out your local Aldi on Thursday this week. They're selling a 17" LCD with built-in speakers for £139.99.

 

[enabb]

Many thank,s

 

[Cheesy Mike]

£139 from Amazon - http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000BHH1TK

12ms response, 1280x1024 pixels.

Looks like a good buy to me.

Mike

 

[themadprofessor]

Hi, You should also be aware that ALL flat screen monitors have bad (black) pixels.

When the panels are manufactured they are immediately tested and graded for where on the screen and how many pixels are "dead".

Then different manufacturers of the finished monitors buy the screens in based on how many and whereabouts on the panel the dead pixels are located. So beware some of the little known brands as they will have bought the panels in based on less demanding standards!!

See Toms Hardware guide to dead pixels on flat panels

http://graphics.tomshardware.com/display/20030319/lcd_pixels-02.html

and this explanation of the ISO grades for flat panels

The standard also defines four levels of quality. Class 1, the highest, allows no defects at all. Class 4, the lowest, allows up to 262! Fortunately nobody refers to it. Apart from some exceptions, all manufacturers refer to Class 2. If they do not specify, the monitor is Class 1 by default and you can have it changed at the smallest pixel defect.

The standard distinguishes four types of defective pixel.

* Type 1: number of always-lit pixels.
* Type 2: number of always-unlit pixels.
* Type 3: other defects, particularly on sub-pixels and the RGB cells making up pixels (lit or unlit). This means red, green and blue pixels lit the whole time. Experience shows that this is undoubtedly the most common defect.

To find the total number of defective pixels allowed, add up the defects of Types 1, 2 and 3.

* Type 4 (Fault Cluster): the number of defective pixels in a square of 5 x 5 pixels on a panel.

Lastly, the standard stipulates the number of errors allowed per million pixels on the panel. More dead pixels are allowed on a 17" screen than on a 15" one.

ISO Standard: The Actual Figures

These are all laid out in a table.

I hope this makes sense!!

Chris

 

[themadprofessor]

Just as a matter of interest here is a page from Fujitsu Siemens where they state their dead pixel standard.
<iframe frameborder="1" height="800" scrolling="auto" src="http://www.fujitsu-siemens.co.uk/rl/servicesupport/techsupport/Lifebook/General/PixelError.htm" width="800"></iframe></font></p>

Chris

 

[themadprofessor]

Here is a good site for PC hardware. I just bought a Canon printer, £25.00 cheaper than anywhere else.

Notice they state the ISO standard

All LCD displays adhere to the ISO 13406-2 standard with regard to pixel faults.

<iframe frameborder="1" height="800" scrolling="auto" src="http://www.komplett.co.uk/k/ki.asp?sku=315192&cks=PRL" width="700"></iframe></font></p>

Chris

 

[enabb]

Brilliant stuff, thanks professor

cheers
enabb.