Brand new Alpine white in the garage with wire spoke wheels, any advice on which cleaner to use or not as the case maybe??
Sdoc100 or Muc -Off
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stuart kerr
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Sdoc100 is the best cleaning product on the market in my view. Muc off is very chemically aggressive, has its uses but i'd steer clear.
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Shamone
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Muc-off stains anodised parts. Learnt the hard way.
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andylel
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Sdoc every time. Can't get better imho. Only use muc off at your peril. Eats the bike.
Castrol Greentec, as recommended by BMW Motorrad. Diluted 50/50 mit wasser as recommended by my mate Robb who used to work for BP / Castrol.
What he says! 
But before that I would have said Sdoc100. Little between them except when you take BMW to task over rust if you say you've always used their recommendation it might count for something!
But before that I would have said Sdoc100. Little between them except when you take BMW to task over rust if you say you've always used their recommendation it might count for something!
Thanks gents much appreciated: thumby:
Totally agree.. Muc off isn't kind to Bmw wheels...
I've been using rhino goo for the last few years with no issues, rinse the bike, spray it on and rinse it off, it's as easy as that.
I really don't understand the negativity against Muc off.
I have used it for years and used PROPERLY it is excellent. My TC comes up like new and and has never stained, marked, melted or disintegrated any surface on my bike. To use Muc off properly you need to use it as instructed. Clean small sections of the bike at a time and do not leave on for more than a few minutes or to dry in the sun.
Spray the rear wheel & drive shaft area, work in if required and then rinse off before spraying the next section. Do not get distracted answering the phone, talking to neighbors or staring at the sky and you will not have any issues.
I swear by the stuff and use it on my bikes, my car, and it's the best thing ever at doing an annual degrease of my kitchen floor tiles
If however you fail to use it as instructed, there is a risk that you could mark the finish. I have yet to ever have this problem after at least 5 years of regular use. If my bike is not particularly grubby I water it down to make it go further. After rinsing the bike off I then dry it using Turtle wax 'wax it wet' with a microfiber cloth over every surface And the bike looks like new.
I have used it for years and used PROPERLY it is excellent. My TC comes up like new and and has never stained, marked, melted or disintegrated any surface on my bike. To use Muc off properly you need to use it as instructed. Clean small sections of the bike at a time and do not leave on for more than a few minutes or to dry in the sun.
Spray the rear wheel & drive shaft area, work in if required and then rinse off before spraying the next section. Do not get distracted answering the phone, talking to neighbors or staring at the sky and you will not have any issues.
I swear by the stuff and use it on my bikes, my car, and it's the best thing ever at doing an annual degrease of my kitchen floor tiles
If however you fail to use it as instructed, there is a risk that you could mark the finish. I have yet to ever have this problem after at least 5 years of regular use. If my bike is not particularly grubby I water it down to make it go further. After rinsing the bike off I then dry it using Turtle wax 'wax it wet' with a microfiber cloth over every surface And the bike looks like new.
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Jersey Neil , that pic tells us everything ! Superb . Thanks for posting.
My pleasure. Just one of many proud owners of a super fast red GS TC 
(RIP) Mark H
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Even used as per instructions muc off gradually dulls the finish on your bike, used as per instructions its effects are slowed but still there, Think the word is "Cumulative-degradation "
The red GS looks OK in the photo but if its been cleaned with muc off the finish under the polish / wax will still be affected.
The fact that if you leave it on to long it damages the finish means it starts damaging the finish right away! but in initialy unnoticible ways, the effects build up over time, you can temporaily restore the shine with waxes or polishes, but you are only covering the damage.
It appears to cause damage right away to anodised finishes
BMW warn against using this product on your bike and if they are aware it has been used it will affect any warrenty claim where the finish is in question.
The red GS looks OK in the photo but if its been cleaned with muc off the finish under the polish / wax will still be affected.
The fact that if you leave it on to long it damages the finish means it starts damaging the finish right away! but in initialy unnoticible ways, the effects build up over time, you can temporaily restore the shine with waxes or polishes, but you are only covering the damage.
It appears to cause damage right away to anodised finishes
BMW warn against using this product on your bike and if they are aware it has been used it will affect any warrenty claim where the finish is in question.
We will have to beg to differ mate. I'm very ocd about my bike and it's perfect. End of argument.
I'm not particularly OCD about my bikes but I've never had any problems with Muc Off on any bike I've ever had. Like measuring the oil, follow the very simple instructions and don't seek to improve on them. All will be well.
(RIP) Mark H
Formerly known as Easyrider5258 (Mark)
A quick search on the web;
Muc Off = Streaks! - UKGSer
F***! My paint has gone dull!
dunno about stripping anodising but it's faded my m8 paint work
Suspect fork damage from Muc Off in Mechanics' Lounge
I can certainly say that Muc-off (claimed to be safe on everything) damaged the paint
Think the opinions that this stuff is carp, I've tried it and its not very good
SDOC is recommended
Took the bike back today for the bubbling and flaking paint to be checked, asked what i cleaned it with, i said muc off, was told to stop using it, is well known for causing corrosion.
Muc-Off will damage your bike, it will do it quickly if you dont follow instructions and slower if you do, with a progressive ageing effect
The paint on my own bike was damaged by the use of muc off by previous owner, it has taken a while to repair by repainting damaged areas, I wouldn't put the stuff anywhere near a bike, but that's my opinion (And BMW's apparently
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Muc Off = Streaks! - UKGSer
F***! My paint has gone dull!
dunno about stripping anodising but it's faded my m8 paint work
Suspect fork damage from Muc Off in Mechanics' Lounge
I can certainly say that Muc-off (claimed to be safe on everything) damaged the paint
Think the opinions that this stuff is carp, I've tried it and its not very good
SDOC is recommended
Took the bike back today for the bubbling and flaking paint to be checked, asked what i cleaned it with, i said muc off, was told to stop using it, is well known for causing corrosion.
Muc-Off will damage your bike, it will do it quickly if you dont follow instructions and slower if you do, with a progressive ageing effect
The paint on my own bike was damaged by the use of muc off by previous owner, it has taken a while to repair by repainting damaged areas, I wouldn't put the stuff anywhere near a bike, but that's my opinion (And BMW's apparently
) .
matchbox
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Agree with Wapping and Jersey neil. I've used it for years without any problem. Do think the pre rinse is important as per instructions. Never on hot surfaces. Do not let it dry and rinse well. Dry with microfibre cloth. But I do have dirty hubs and not too worried about nooks and crannies!
Used Muc-Off for years on the hexhead GSA, not the painted plastics, just the mechanical bits. No problems with the finish but I did take care not to let it dry. It is good for getting rid of the dirt and a bit of agitation on the toughest dirt and then rinse. Not kind to the alloy screw and bolt heads though. Now I use Auto Glym products but it is nowhere near as affective as Muc-Off for getting rid of tough dirt. I use Dynax UC as a corrosion preventative coating which is waxy and it does trap dirt, every time the wax heats up it melts and traps the dirt that sprays on to it. No problems though as a degreaser gets rid of the coating leaving the bike shiny. The Dynac UC is meant to stay on the bike until you wash it much like the ACF50 treatment you get from all year biker, but it doesn't drip or wash off.
I use UK valet supplies cherry snow foam, either in the foamer or mixed with water in a spray bottle and also added to a bucket of water, it's brilliant it's also PH neutral so is safe on all surfaces you can even wash your hands in it.
£16 a gallon on EBay
I have also used Muc off but don't think it's very good also it's bloody expensive I've also used Sodoc but again expensive.
The cherry snow foam is easily the best I've used.
Terry
£16 a gallon on EBay
I have also used Muc off but don't think it's very good also it's bloody expensive I've also used Sodoc but again expensive.
The cherry snow foam is easily the best I've used.
Terry
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