Self Cancelling Indicators

[Curzon]

I have a 2017 R1200 GS TE, which I think i read in the spec has self cancelling indicators. Certainly on my first ride home, from collecting it from the dealers, when turning into my road near home, i noticed that the indicator self cancelled, and I thought ah, nice feature!

Problem is since then, it mostly doesn't self cancel, and very occaisionally does decide to self cancel, which is now bugging me.

Anyone know what the operating logic is for this feature? I know that some other bikes i.e. Triumph Explorer and KTM 1190 / 1290 have self cancelling indicatiors that self cancel after either a pre set time, lean angle or distance travelled.

Also if it does have self cancelling indicators, can this feature be switched on / off. I wonder if i have done this inadvertantly

Unfortunately, the Owners manual is not very helpful in this repect. It just says some bikes may have this as an option, but very little else about them

 

[The Grey One]

I have a 2017 R1200 GS TE, which I think i read in the spec has self cancelling indicators. Certainly on my first ride home, from collecting it from the dealers, when turning into my road near home, i noticed that the indicator self cancelled, and I thought ah, nice feature!

Problem is since then, it mostly doesn't self cancel, and very occaisionally does decide to self cancel, which is now bugging me.

Anyone know what the operating logic is for this feature? I know that some other bikes i.e. Triumph Explorer and KTM 1190 / 1290 have self cancelling indicatiors that self cancel after either a pre set time, lean angle or distance travelled.

Also if it does have self cancelling indicators, can this feature be switched on / off. I wonder if i have done this inadvertantly

Unfortunately, the Owners manual is not very helpful in this repect. It just says some bikes may have this as an option, but very little else about them

Self cancelling indicators are the work of the devil. Every vehicle comes with an indicator cancelling device - its called a rider/driver.

John

 

[paul08]

If riding in a straight line, I believe the indicators cancel after about 300m

 

[Flaming T]

I think you will find that there is a 10 second delay before it self cancels if rider does not cancel as normal.

 

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[buncobooth]

I know on the Hexheads they can be set for a specific time OR distance OR set for no auto-cancellation.

 

[Jesim1]

Time or distance (which ever comes first) as mentioned above - I had to look mine up last week but can't remember the figures, but the rational is correct.

James

 

[EVskiy]

Does cancel after 300 meters of continues riding (without stopping at junctions or lights) or after 10 seconds, whichever comes first. The indicators are not lean or steering angle sensitive. You still have to cancel them as per usual when turning at junctions etc.


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[Hairyweasel]

They are crap and I just cancel them myself.
The time it takes for them to cancel is often after the next possible turn, cars are out to kill us enough without trying to confuse them further.

 

[EVskiy]

They are crap and I just cancel them myself.
The time it takes for them to cancel is often after the next possible turn, cars are out to kill us enough without trying to confuse them further.

I only use self cancelling in dualcabbageway and motorway networks when coming on or off the junctions.


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[snaponphil]

They are crap and I just cancel them myself.
The time it takes for them to cancel is often after the next possible turn, cars are out to kill us enough without trying to confuse them further.

I agree, I believe when the first Lc's came out they increased to time/duration for the self cancelling to take effect, on previous years if filtering or on slip roads you had to keep re-applying the indicators as they shut off a tad too early.
I think they've made duration too long & I did ask previously at dealers if this can be changed, NO was the answer at the time..

 

[fredaroony]

I believe the dealer can change the timeout or distance for when they cancel

 

[Davey B]

Self cancelling indicators are the work of the devil. Every vehicle comes with an indicator cancelling device - its called a rider/driver.

John

The real work of the devil are those mongs who fail to cancel their indicators and 800 yards down the road they're still apparently turning left/right

 

[The Grey One]

The real work of the devil are those mongs who fail to cancel their indicators and 800 yards down the road they're still apparently turning left/right

But a lot of that is because a self cancelling indicator didn't. Drivers are accustomed to them turning off by themselves, albeit often at the wrong moment, and don't have cancelling them on their radar. On bikes the warning lights are often all but invisible so maybe that is one reason they get missed.

As someone who drove Citroen cars for many many years I grew accustomed to them having no self cancelling. Citroen tried timed self cancelling in the 50's, they thought better of it later so that models built in the 60's,70's &80's had no such equipment. Sadly later models were fitted with self cancelling. I used to pull the steering wheel, take out the self cancelling ring and drive on happily.

I much prefer the control that switching them off myself gives. Often the road layout demands that indicators are required for longer than the self cancelling allows, sometimes just a few flashes are required. I want to decide and because it is always my decision I am far less likely to forget to switch them off.

John

 

[MaDPRoFF]

Maybe the point is:- Myself I always cancel the indicators, but Myself I far too often forget to, hence self canceling indicators are of use, if they worked as they should, then not a problem for the odd time I forget, but most never do because the people who write the software, and design these things do not actually ride a bike in the real world. hence shit cancelling indicators.

 

[ChazzyB]

My only problem with self-cancelling indicators is them cancelling before I've made my turn. OK, so I've most likely started indicating too soon, but that happens when the TwatNav says you've got a turn coming up. All told, it's prolly better to indicate too early than too late. Especially if you've got a group of bikes following you...

 

[Bmgsrider]

If riding in a straight line, I believe the indicators cancel after about 300m

Which is well too late if a junction is closer and your going straight ahead. Manual every time.