Servo vs. Conventional Brakes on 1200GS

[mikeh501]

There is a huge amount of bollocks talked about the virtues or lack thereof in ABS and servo brakes.

As you can see from my sig, I've got a servo'd ABS adventure. Best brakes i've had on a bike, period. Better than Aprilia Futura (brembo goldline), better than Suzuki GSX14 (6pot tokico). This is probably as much to do with the telelever as anything but still.

When I bought the bike it (servo) wasn't even a consideration, I dont ride this bike any differently than I did my previous bikes, ABS or not, servo or not. So I dont see how your going to unlearn all these skills Same goes for linked brakes. Your back brake doesnt effect the front, so whats the problem, I see no difference whatsoever when riding.

Also, I dont care what anyone says about how clever their respective skills are as a rider. If you have a real emergency, ABS can be a life saver. I would rather be with it, than without, my only caveat is that if I could have ABS without servo, that would be my preference, if only to get rid of the servo whine and to free up space under the tank.

I think the whole issue is 20% merit and 80% bullshit and scare mongering. I would be interested in hearing a BMW response to the 20% and if any of this stuff acheives that, then its welcomed.

 

[laughingBob]

There is a huge amount of bollocks talked about the virtues or lack thereof in ABS and servo brakes.

As you can see from my sig, I've got a servo'd ABS adventure. Best brakes i've had on a bike, period. Better than Aprilia Futura (brembo goldline), better than Suzuki GSX14 (6pot tokico). This is probably as much to do with the telelever as anything but still.

When I bought the bike it (servo) wasn't even a consideration, I dont ride this bike any differently than I did my previous bikes, ABS or not, servo or not. So I dont see how your going to unlearn all these skills Same goes for linked brakes. Your back brake doesnt effect the front, so whats the problem, I see no difference whatsoever when riding.

Also, I dont care what anyone says about how clever their respective skills are as a rider. If you have a real emergency, ABS can be a life saver. I would rather be with it, than without, my only caveat is that if I could have ABS without servo, that would be my preference, if only to get rid of the servo whine and to free up space under the tank.

I think the whole issue is 20% merit and 80% bullshit and scare mongering. I would be interested in hearing a BMW response to the 20% and if any of this stuff acheives that, then its welcomed.

The voice of reason and common sense. It'll never catch on, not on here anyway!

 

[ELIMINATOR]

I have owned my gs1150 Integral ABS since last August. Bought with 996 miles on the clock, it has had Two new servo pumps fitted. The first one would not stop running when the front brake lever was squeezed gently & released. The second one, 6 weeks later just gave up without warning, and ONLY TOLD ME SO AFTER THE BIKE STOPPED.

Given the option of buying again, I would not touch it with a barge pole. Why an electrical servo? Just something else to go wrong at vast expense, do BMW give a shit? No. Customer services at Bracknell phoned me after I wrote and complained. I felt that I was being patronised, furthermore I had the feeling that by phoning me I would not have a hard copy of anything that was said by BMW. Cynical, Moi? Yes,

I know this has been ranted about before, especially by me. Having said that, when needed it is really good.

 

[JohnnyBoxer]

I have owned my gs1150 Integral ABS since last August. Bought with 996 miles on the clock, it has had Two new servo pumps fitted. The first one would not stop running when the front brake lever was squeezed gently & released. The second one, 6 weeks later just gave up without warning, and ONLY TOLD ME SO AFTER THE BIKE STOPPED.

Given the option of buying again, I would not touch it with a barge pole. Why an electrical servo? Just something else to go wrong at vast expense, do BMW give a shit? No. Customer services at Bracknell phoned me after I wrote and complained. I felt that I was being patronised, furthermore I had the feeling that by phoning me I would not have a hard copy of anything that was said by BMW. Cynical, Moi? Yes,

I know this has been ranted about before, especially by me. Having said that, when needed it is really good.

The voice of reason and common sense. It'll never catch on, not on here anyway!

 

[laughingBob]

The voice of reason and common sense. It'll never catch on, not on here anyway!

My point, exactly